Posts by opusdei1972

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Transcript for Jackson is now available for download.

by ToesUp in

https://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/636f01a5-50db-4b59-a35e-a24ae07fb0ad/case-study-29,-july-2015,-sydney.

select aug 14..

I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

by John Aquila in

so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

So you can show me facts about 607 and you can show me all the failed prophesies, and point to all those covering child abuse but it’s not going to change what I believe. What I believe has a ring of truth. Me and my family are happy where we’re at and we don’t need to investigate or research anything anymore. I met my wife in the organization, been married 15 years and she’s great. I have two great kids, have a job, home, -----what else do I need? Why would I want to disrupt that?

Ok, accordingly, stop preaching lies door by door and stop saying that your religion is the only truth. Stop disrupting people by claiming that they will be killed by Jehovah if they do not belong to your organization.

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I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

by John Aquila in

so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

opusdei1972

It’s a big deal to die with a wonderful hope rather than dying believing this life is all there is.

So, this is why the organization loves to sacrifice infants by the blood ban, only to satisfy the vagaries of a Jehovah's seer: Fred Franz.

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I believe that the greater percentage of JWs-You Will Not Be Able to Help, no Matter What Facts You Show Them.

by John Aquila in

so i ran into this brother whom ive known for a while and the conversation led into me being invited to come back to the kingdom hall.

we talked for about an hour during which time i explained to him 607 being the wrong date and a lot of other stuff including the child abuse cases in australia.

but what i wanted to relate was the last few minutes of our conversation.

opusdei1972

what do you or any apostates have to offer. Do you have an answer why there is so much wickedness? Do you have a solution to stop sickness, suffering, and most of all death?

So, according to that guy, we must to follow seven stupid elders who work in NY city because they publish answers about how a mythological god will appoint them as kings over the earth for 1000 years, so as to stop suffering and sickness.

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Geoffrey Jackson - Freedome Of Religon Within Jehovah's Witnesses - VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

a summary for you guys of the rather lengthy discussion about peoples ability to leave the organisation:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpir8vjsdre&feature=youtu.be.

opusdei1972

When asked if they consider themselves the spokespersons for God, jackson says it would be quite presomptuous to say they are spokespersons of God, but they DO say they are the only channel of communication of God on earth

Many times we read in the Watchtower that they claim to be the channel of God. This governing body member is clearly lying.

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[Day 8 - 14/8]Governing Body, Geoffrey Jackson - Royal Commissions On Child Sexual Abuse, Australia. + VIDEO

by C0ntr013r in

the big day finally arrived!

these amazing royal commission proceedings are available on youtube :).

part 1 has been uploaded and part 2 will soon be available.. part 1:.

opusdei1972

Publications are not written or researched by the G.B.

This is a pretty LIE !!.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

opusdei1972

Island Man: But Jesus performed cures on the sabbath. Jesus advocated breaking the rules to show compassion.

Yes, and interestingly, Marcion, in the second century, was the one who led a christian movement based on that premise.

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

opusdei1972

Here is an interesting commentary given by Bart Erhman:

According to Tertullian, Marcion took the words of Jesus found
in Luke 6:43 quite seriously: “No good tree bears bad fruit, nor does
a bad tree bear good fruit, for each tree is known by its own fruit.”
Look around at this world we live in, said Marcion, this world of
poverty, starvation, disease, war, and death. What kind of God could
have created such a cesspool of misery and despair? In the Old
Testament, God himself declares, “I am the one who creates mis-
ery” (Isa. 45:7). If a tree is known by its fruits, and the Old Testament
God is one who produces misery, what does that say about God?
He is the one responsible for all human suffering. He cannot be
thought of as good.
But if there are good fruits there must also be a good God. This
according to Marcion, is the God of Jesus, who must therefore be
a different God from the one who created this evil world.

(Studies in the textual criticism of the New Testament, page 347, Bart Ehrman)

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

opusdei1972

I recommend you to read the books of Raymond Brown as "Birth of the Messiah" and also "Death of the Messiah". Brown was one of the first Catholic scholars in the United States to use the historical-critical method to study the Bible.

On the other hand, some of the books of Bart Ehrman are the following:

1)The Orthodox Corruption of Scripture: The Effect of Early Christological Controversies on the Text of the New Testament.

2)Jesus Before the Gospels: How the Earliest Christians Remembered, Changed, and Invented Their Stories of the Savior

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Jesus The Perfect Reflection Of The Father?

by JW_Rogue in

so this week's wt study was all about jesus and the miracles he performed.

according to the study this proves that god wants to heal mankind in the same way.

because as we all know jesus is a perfect reflection of his heavenly father.

opusdei1972

Caleb:

I appreciate your thoughts.