Posts by opusdei1972

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

opusdei1972

millie210 Some years ago I was a witness, who believed that the Bible was 98 % inerrant. After leaving the Society I still believed that the entire Bible was the word of God. But I have to admit that I did not want to analyze the Bible through critical eyes. So, when I found a contradiction, I used to read websites of christian apologists, in which the contradictions are harmonized by sophistic arguments. That was the way I was deceiving myself. Now I see that the Old Testament can't be the word of God, because a loving God could not be partial. I realize that the Old Testament was written by Jews who had a nationalistic agenda. So, those stories where YHWH is shown as the God of Israel, the Lord of Hosts who endorses genocide against Israel's enemies, were based on ancient wars, but reconfigured by the Jewish scribes so as to raise the pride of an inferior nation compared with Babylon, Egypt, Persia, etc. Accordingly, YHWH of the Hosts is a Jewish invention.

If God is the God of the Old Testament, why doesn't he use his supernatural power to save inocent people who die in many natural disasters? ...The fact is that that God who protected the Israelites in the story of the Exodus does not exist. The true God (as I see) never chose a nation and favored a religious system.

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

opusdei1972

I wonder how could Jesus say that his Father and God was the God of the Old Testament. This fact lowers his credibility.

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

opusdei1972

THIS IS WHY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE AS THEY ARE, BECAUSE THEY LOVE THEIR GOD, WHO IS THE GOD OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.

“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”(Richard Dawkins)

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

opusdei1972

....How did they know who were not virgin women?...it seems that they did an inspection.

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Jehovah told to Moses: "....kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man"

by opusdei1972 in

in numbers 31 we read the following:.

jehovah then told moses:2 take vengeance for the israelites on the midianites.

afterward you will be gathered to your people.3 so moses spoke to the people, saying: equip men from among you for battle against midian and to execute jehovahs vengeance on midian.4 you should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of israel into the army............ 7 they waged war against midian, just as jehovah had commanded moses, and they killed every male.8 along with the others slain, they killed the kings of midian, namely, evi, rekem, zur, hur, and reba, the five kings of midian.

opusdei1972

In Numbers 31 we read the following:

Jehovah then told Moses: 2 “Take vengeance for the Israelites on the Mid′i·an·ites. Afterward you will be gathered to your people.” 3 So Moses spoke to the people, saying: “Equip men from among you for battle against Mid′i·an and to execute Jehovah’s vengeance on Mid′i·an. 4 You should send 1,000 of each tribe of all the tribes of Israel into the army.”........... 7 They waged war against Mid′i·an, just as Jehovah had commanded Moses, and they killed every male. 8 Along with the others slain, they killed the kings of Mid′i·an, namely, E′vi, Re′kem, Zur, Hur, and Re′ba, the five kings of Mid′i·an. They also killed Ba′laam+ the son of Be′or with the sword. 9 But the Israelites carried off captive the women and children of Mid′i·an. They also plundered all their domestic animals, all their livestock, and all their possessions. 10 And all their cities in which they had settled and all their encampments they burned with fire. 11 And they took all the spoil and all the plunder, both humans and animals. 12 Then they brought the captives, the plunder, and the spoil to Moses and El·e·a′zar the priest and to the assembly of the Israelites, to the camp in the desert plains of Mo′ab near the Jordan at Jer′i·cho. 13 Then Moses and El·e·a′zar the priest and all the chieftains of the assembly went out to meet them outside the camp. 14 But Moses grew indignant at the appointed men of the combat forces, the chiefs of the thousands and the chiefs of the hundreds who were coming in from the military expedition. 15 Moses said to them: “Have you preserved all the females alive? 16 Look! They are the ones who by Ba′laam’s word induced the Israelites to commit unfaithfulness toward Jehovah over the affair of Pe′or, so that the scourge came upon the assembly of Jehovah. 17 Now you should kill every male among the children and kill every woman who has had sexual relations with a man. 18 But you may keep alive all the young girls who have not had sexual relations with a man [for having sex with them?]

What a lovely God was YHWH!!!

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Gerrit Losch talks to poor South Americans about Materialism while wearing THREE (3) gold rings and 2 gold cuff links...

by Calebs Airplane in

he also talks trash about higher education .... (for those who know some spanish, view this youtube video...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxhx1ho_nq.

what an idiot.. .

opusdei1972

Gerrit Losch has told again his stupid past analogy, namely, in the same way that you would not recomend a shot in your head we must not recomend university studies. But now he added that surviving university studies is like surviving after swimming a sea with sharks.

This GB member is one of the most hypocrites, because he and his stupid friends use lawers graduated in universities to defend their asses.

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Where was the dead body of Jesus? Did the disciples disappear it?

by opusdei1972 in

i am currently an skeptic, but i have to admit that i can't assure that all the stuff of early christianity was false.. for instance, we know that the genuine letters of paul were written before the destruction of jerusalem.

so, paul affirmed that jesus resurrected, though he was not there when it supposedly happened.

but, if jesus did not resurrect, why didn't the jews expose this falsehood?.

opusdei1972

Vanderhoven7 I see that Bishop John Shelby Spong holds a more rational view of the Gospels. Spong sincerely admits that Mark was the source of Matthew and Luke. But Craig wants to hide the sun with a finger.

http://seektheos.com/was-the-resurrection-of-jesus-christ-a-real-physical-event/

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Gerrit Losch talks to poor South Americans about Materialism while wearing THREE (3) gold rings and 2 gold cuff links...

by Calebs Airplane in

he also talks trash about higher education .... (for those who know some spanish, view this youtube video...).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suxhx1ho_nq.

what an idiot.. .

opusdei1972

Gerrit Losch is an idiot.

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Where was the dead body of Jesus? Did the disciples disappear it?

by opusdei1972 in

i am currently an skeptic, but i have to admit that i can't assure that all the stuff of early christianity was false.. for instance, we know that the genuine letters of paul were written before the destruction of jerusalem.

so, paul affirmed that jesus resurrected, though he was not there when it supposedly happened.

but, if jesus did not resurrect, why didn't the jews expose this falsehood?.

opusdei1972

I admit that much of what was written in the Gospels is not historical, but I agree with Bart and other scholars who believe that Jesus was a Jew who was killed by the romans. I agree that it is possible that "the story of the body disappearing was added much later and probably was not an actual event". So, as I see, Paul existed, and he preached before 70 AD based on a historical person (Jesus) who did not meet him. Of course, Paul is before the Gospels and it seems that he preached the spiritual resurrection of Christ (as shown in 1 Cor 15). If so, the stuff about the dead body was not an issue until some christians wanted to prove that he was raised in flesh (it seems it was the Johannine community close to the year 100 AD). So, after the destruction of the year 70 AD, no one could find the body of Jesus to prove something.

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Where was the dead body of Jesus? Did the disciples disappear it?

by opusdei1972 in

i am currently an skeptic, but i have to admit that i can't assure that all the stuff of early christianity was false.. for instance, we know that the genuine letters of paul were written before the destruction of jerusalem.

so, paul affirmed that jesus resurrected, though he was not there when it supposedly happened.

but, if jesus did not resurrect, why didn't the jews expose this falsehood?.

opusdei1972

As Bart Ehrman pointed out, the existence of Jesus must be historical....but the christian argument is that his body disappeared. So, if this was an argument used before 70 AD, it could get many followers. I am tried to understand it.