Your arguments were great. You showed how blind are these witnesses. They think that their literature is holy, they are very ignorant people. Their black and white world bothers me.
opusdei1972
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Epic Discussion ( Confrontation ) with JW Cart People about WT Child Abuse
by flipper inso i had about had enough of reading jw's excuses online about wt child abuse and the candace conti nightline abc video about her case.
this is a really deep burning topic to me as i'm sure it is to many of you.
so today the gloves came off.
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Telling Parents About TTATT
by ivanatahan inmy parents are zealous jecultah's blindnesses, but my sister and i are not.
because of this, we are limited in our abilities/opportunities in life.
mu parents hate my sister because she went to college and started a full time job and thus isn't able to go to meetings or service.
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If I were you, I would tell them what I think about the falsehood of the Watchtower Society. Ask them questions about the past false prophecies, the absurdity of the issue on blood fractions, and so on. I don't know if you still believe in the Bible (I currently not, I am an agnostic now), but, if you still believe in it, you could show them how unscriptural is the Lord's Supper in the Watchtowerland. Indeed, this was one of the first issues that I began to reject when I noticed that the foundation of the doctrines of the Watchtower were created by an evil man, namely, Joseph Rutherford. For instance, I discovered that Rutherford published in the Watchtower that the holy spirit was taken away since 1918. I was shocked when I read it, and I realized that this guy was an apostate. I was also shocked when I read how Rutherford answered the Letter of Olin Moyle. Could this man have God's backing? -
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WT is trying to scare off memorial partakers
by cookiemaster ini don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.
even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.
a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.
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cookiemaster
Thank you, I have read the article. I see they provide the same arguments, as always. But I have a simple one to destroy their theology: If anyone invites me for dinner just to observe and not to eat, I would say : "Is this a joke?", so "don't invite again". -
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WT is trying to scare off memorial partakers
by cookiemaster ini don't know how many of you still participate in the sunday wt study, but i unfortunately still do.
even though i was asleep half of the time, i did notice something i thought i should share with the rest, in case you haven't noticed.
a lot of the paragraphs were worded strongly against partaking and used clear language of intimidation and discouragement toward anyone thinking of partaking.
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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?
by JWCartPusher inhello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.
please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.
i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.
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Devouring the Forbidden Fruit - Higher Education
by cappytan inwell, i told my wife over the weekend i was going to go back school to finish my degree.
she is 100% supportive of it!
apparently she doesn't think higher education is so evil either.. since my former major was computer programming and that was in the late 1990's, i was told i'd have to retake a bunch of classes since times have changed.
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The Universities are updating knowledge based on researching. This is why we currently know that the accounts contained in the first five books of the Bible have little archaeological support and Moses could not be the author of them. The same happens with scientific support for stories like the Noah's Flood, and so on. Therefore, secular knowledge is dangerous for the Watchtower's cult. This cult needs to hide and distort scientific knowledge. -
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God was the cause of the evil
by opusdei1972 inbart ehrman noticed, in his book "god's problem", the fact that god was responsible for job's pain.
to show it, bart quoted the following verse:.
and they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the lord had brought upon him.
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freemindfade Thank you, I want to show to the Witnesses how the Bible contains contradictory views on Yahweh God and how the Watchtower translators tried to hide it.
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How many of you still believe in God or are still Christians?
by JWCartPusher inhello, i asked a new but old friend how many people are still christians after leaving the watchtower's mind control agency, for statistical purposes do you mind if i do a survey and see how many of you are believers?.
please don't post if your not a believer out of respect for this poll, we need to sharpen each other's sword and help build each other up and meet new friends over the internet with faith in god or some other force of the universe.
i asked another person how we can still manage our faith after getting burned by the high group mind control, he had a few ideas but he's not really involved with god because of how life burned him.
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According to Paul, the account of Adam and Eve was not a parable, but true history. Paul believed that Adam was the first man. Paul believed in many myths, which tells us that he had no "holy spirit". -
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God was the cause of the evil
by opusdei1972 inbart ehrman noticed, in his book "god's problem", the fact that god was responsible for job's pain.
to show it, bart quoted the following verse:.
and they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the lord had brought upon him.
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According to the book, God let Satan to test Job's loyalty. So Bart noticed that not all was by Satan's guilty, but it was because God wanted too, and the verse 42:11 admits it. -
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God was the cause of the evil
by opusdei1972 inbart ehrman noticed, in his book "god's problem", the fact that god was responsible for job's pain.
to show it, bart quoted the following verse:.
and they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the lord had brought upon him.
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opusdei1972
Bart Ehrman noticed, in his book "God's Problem", the fact that God was responsible for Job's pain. To show it, Bart quoted the following verse:
And they showed him sympathy and comforted him for all the evil that the LORD had brought upon him.(Jogb 42:11, ESV)
However, the Watchtower Society mistranslated the hebrew verb "bow" (to bring to pass) so as to mean "to allow to come":
They sympathized with him and comforted him over all the calamity that Jehovah had allowed to come upon him. (Job 42:11, New World Translation)
I don't think that this hebrew verb has the passive meaning of " allow". Note how it was used here:
In the course of time Cain brought (bow) to the LORD an offering of the fruit of the ground, (Gen. 4:3)The Watchtower tried to show Yahweh less evil ?
