Posts by opusdei1972

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THE SAD BALLAD OF HAYDEN C. COVINGTON (Attorney of record for the Watchtower Organization)

by Terry in

ali did not serve even five minutes of time in prison and that had zero to do with hayden c. covington..

june 19, 1967 in houston, tex..

there are a number of salient facts concerning this man who possessed a big reputation..

opusdei1972

I would like to read your book Terry, ..sadly, I can't buy it in South America, but if I could get a digital version, it would be great.

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The Governing Body and "Josephs generation"

by The freewheeling in

hi, i m new here and not so good in english, but ive give it a try and hope you understand.. .

the whole idea of the overlapped generation is not only illogical, there are also serious errors in reasoning and how to interpret the scripture.. .

the only "scriptural argument" that the governing body has managed to bring in this matter is exodus 1: 6 where they say that a "generation" can be stretched to cover a longer period than usually meant by a "generation".

opusdei1972

Jesus said "this generation". It clearly means, his first century contemporaries. For instance, let's read the following verse:

"You unbelieving and perverse generation," Jesus replied, "how long shall I stay with you? How long shall I put up with you?....(Matthew 17:17)

Here we also clearly understand what Jesus meant by "generation", but Witnesses want to read

"You unbelieving and perverse overlapped Fred Franz generation , how long shall I stay with you?"

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That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

by Island Man in

a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

opusdei1972

OverlappingGeneralizations 29 minutes ago

In the back of my mind, I always wondered:

I have worked with several schizophrenics, and some believe they are the son of god, or are being talked to by god directly. What if Jesus was just a convincing schizophrenic?

Of course, if he said things like "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me", he was a schizophrenic. But most probably be he did not say such a thing, and those words were written by people who did not know him.

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That's it! The Jesus stories are most reasonably explained as myth. History makes this obvious.

by Island Man in

a careful examination of the historical pagan religious context existing at the time of the genesis of christianity leads any reasonable person to conclude that jesus is just another one of several similar myths.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kn7teoa9ark.

opusdei1972

Indeed, many of the stories of Jesus in the Gospels are myths. For instance, his birth of a virgin, the resurrection of Lazarus, his walking on the waters, and many of the dialogues (in the Fourth Gospel) are not historical. However, Jesus had to exist, as Caleb pointed out. But he was a Jew, a leader of a sect, so I strongly doubt (as many scholars do) that he sent his disciples to preach and baptise people of all nations in the name of the Father and the Son, and the holy spirit.

In conclusion, I believe that only a ten percent of what we read in the Gospels is historical.

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Anyone miss "Scholar" who used to post here? Found him!

by sir82 in

jw
friends

...in the jwtalk thread covering the september broadcast re: "generation".. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/22665-september-broadcast/page-5.

poor neil, he comes on this forum, he gets hammered.. goes on the virulently pro-jw forum, gets hammered.. you'd almost think he was a troll.....no, couldn't be..... .

opusdei1972

I was rather disappointed in the explanation of 'this generation' by David Splane in the September Broadcasting. He really explained nothing but simply added to the confusion over the interpretation of this most problematic phrase. Further, the current explanations seem at odds with what is now published on this subject in the updated online Insight to the Scriptures.

A much more prudent interpretation of matters is simply to return to what was published in the Watchtower in 1927? that 'this generation' represented the Church or the Anointed as a whole which is well supported if one consults the meaning of the Hebrew/Aramaic form of which Jesus spoke in his Olivet discourse.

scholar JW

The problem with this guy (Scholar JW) is that he is trying to THINK, not understanding that the theological Watchtower's rubbish is for ACCEPTING it, without using the brain.

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Anyone miss "Scholar" who used to post here? Found him!

by sir82 in

jw
friends

...in the jwtalk thread covering the september broadcast re: "generation".. http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/22665-september-broadcast/page-5.

poor neil, he comes on this forum, he gets hammered.. goes on the virulently pro-jw forum, gets hammered.. you'd almost think he was a troll.....no, couldn't be..... .

opusdei1972

Only brainwashed persons can "appreciate" the absurdity of the "overlapping generation" stuff.

This is one of the most stupid exegesis of the theological rubbish of the Watchtower's fantasy.

http://jwtalk.net/forums/topic/22665-september-broadcast/page-5

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

opusdei1972

As early as the first century, Christians call themselves "apostates" or "liars", etc.

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Why doesn't Jesus appear to you ?

by opusdei1972 in

the new testament tells us stories about miracles, people speaking in different languages by the holy spirit, jesus appearing to many of his disciples.

but, why this was only a first century phenomenom???.

here some reasoning: http://godisimaginary.com/i15.htm.

opusdei1972

The New Testament tells us stories about miracles, people speaking in different languages by the holy spirit, Jesus appearing to many of his disciples. But, why this was only a first century phenomenom???.

Here some reasoning: http://godisimaginary.com/i15.htm

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EXACTLY Why JW's Are NOT Christian

by Perry in

a lot of people, ex-jws, believers and unbelievers alike, think that jw's are just a somewhat kooky brand of christianity.

is it possible to "try and follow jesus" and not be christian?

what exactly makes someone a christian?

opusdei1972

I think that Witnesses are as Christians as many Christian sects that existed in the first and second century. Christianity is a salad of theologies.

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Ray Franz was an Idiot

by vinman in

ray franz who gave us insight into the gb due to a crisis of conscience was an absolute moron, with absolutely no critical thinking skills whatsoever like all of us have.

i mean, to have a conscience based on some magic man in the sky.. how stupid can you be?

in search of christian freedom?

opusdei1972

I am agnostic, so I currently don't believe in Christianity. Raymond Franz died as a Christian. Whatever, I still think he was a great man who recognized his error in supporting a stupid religion. He indeed admitted the stupidity of the Organization's thinking. I admire him because he could maintain his comfortable status as one of the kings of Bethel New York, however, he chose the way of honesty.