Toole getting tied in knots over his involvement as legal advice. He writes letters, signs them off with his code but insists that the Service Department then revises them and sends them out.
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Letter from branch to GB mentions a list of names of abusers. Stewart wants to know where it is. Toole hasn't a clue - that's Service department things. Stewart now questioning whether they've withheld information from the commission or whether branch has lied to governing body about the list. List has been demanded as evidence. -
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Stewart takes apart their argument that 383 of the cases have been reported to police. What Aussie bethel has done is searched the files for words like 'police' and authorities' and equated that to police being involved. Stewart points out that it may actually say "do not report to police and authorities" and count to their numbers. Points out again that not a single case has been reported by elders according to their own files - unless a law has forced them to. -
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I think they know Umberto. Stewart's showing it by his line of questioning. McClellan by his comments yesterday. At the same time, they're conscious that these guys are just totally oblivious to the inconsistencies in what they write and the culture they create. -
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Stewart's dismantling their approach to confidentiality as reason for not working with authorities as set out in their last letter about 'legal matters' to elders. Effectively, this is their hope to claim ecclesiastical privilege in Oz, at least, being forensically kicked apart. -
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He's got Toole to say that his understanding that going to court is prohibition of civil cases. Stewart mentions that there is also often a civil case which goes along with the criminal case. Still indicates he's very sceptical that Toole's understanding is one shared at congregation level about criminal cases. -
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Stewart wants the latest version of the directions for Branch offices. WT counsel suggests he'll ask. McClellan informs him that he'll do better than that and provide an answer. WT counsel asks that the book setting it out not be made public. McClellan will not give a 'yes' or 'no' and comments Royal Commissions work in public so will need to be convinced why it should be kept secret. -
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Stewart's establishing that there are no formal documentation for how the JWs run themselves. Toole disclaims all knowledge. McClellan wants to try to establish why their own lawyer doesn't know, wants to know how Aussie branch is actually run and relationship to Brooklyn. -
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Toole is in charge of the legal department. WT paid for him to study law. Stewart already, in first two questions, refusing to allow him to slide out of answering the question asked. The GB is responsible for setting policy. After a couple of attempts, "that's what I understand". Toole's trying the 'the branches are responsible for application' approach.