The congregation letter was leaked soon after the AGM. If it is that one, it's a rehash of what Herd said with directions to go to the website and watch him say it. There's also another letter saying there's going to be a video to be played on a mid-week meeting night to go with a bit telling dubs to give more money.
Mephis
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Letter to be read at meeting this week about the downsize
by dropoffyourkeylee ina family member who is a bethelite informed me today that there is a letter to be read soon ( this week or next) concerning the downsizing.
so probably someone who has their midweek meeting early in the week will be able to fill in the details.
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Does God hear the prayers of unbelievers?A stupid question you may say, but wait.
by James Mixon injonah 3:5-10 the people of nineveh prayed that nineveh might be spared.
god.
answer their prayer and god did not destroy the city.. mark 7:24-30 the gentile woman prayed that jesus would deliver her daughter.
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Disfellowshipping Spree In My Congregation
by jw07 ini just was looking back at a group photo on social media from exactly one year ago.. there are 12 persons in it, and since last year 3 of those persons in that photo have been disfellowshipped, plus one more not in the photo.
so that's a total of 4 persons from my congregation of a little over 100 publishers.. unfortunately 3 are back at the meetings and taking the shunning, but one seems to be fully awake and has disappeared completely.. that's the most persons i recall being disfellowshipped in my congregation in such a short while.
usually it's like 1 every 2 or 3 years.. i wouldn't mind seeing more people leaving.. there are currently 3 persons who i wonder about.
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Mephis
Really disagree with where you're coming from there Storm. People have to make the choices which work for them and their circumstances. For some people it's pretty darned easy to walk out of the door and never look back. For others, it's a hell of a lot more complex. Don't think anyone should be giving others grief for the choices they make around this. -
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Does it ever just hit you...It all may be a dream
by LevelThePlayingField inthat the paradise may or may not be real?
that the things you have been taught for many years from the jehovah's witnesses may not really be as they say?
has it really ever really hit you with that "pow" of reality ever?
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Possible reason for cancellation of book study in homes.
by Amelia Ashton inthis was posted on fb.. so guys, i'm gonna share something with you all that i think you should know.
i've only told two people about this (one being john cedars) for fear of getting this guy into trouble, but it's very telling and will reaffirm your "ttatt faith!
a couple of weeks ago, i had to have an "ability to protect" assessment by a gentleman from a company that also investigates child protection policies etc.
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Mephis
The 2008 Charity Commission work was more on them having something resembling a child protection policy and to write down what they were meant to do clearly. (If that sounds familiar, this issue is the same the Aussie Royal Commission have hammered them for too). There was no threat to charitable status at the time. It was about having procedures in place, oh and also making sure that trustees of a charity (typically elders) who were aware of serious crimes informed relevant authorities. If that seems familiar... yeah.
Struggling with the story's link between Tuesday book study and the Mill Hill inquiry to be honest. Seems someone may be making much of this. Sorry. Hate to be sceptical. Can certainly believe aspects and parts of the story though. Just not that direct link between things from here in the UK. An overall realisation of liability and consequences does chime though.
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So do the baptised JW call themselves "Ordained Ministers"?
by nonjwspouse inin resent my search for the possible construction ( which i see no evidence of in building permits, etc) of a new kh that my mil has been claiming for almost 3 years now, i ran across this local linkedin profile.. at the end it states this:.
volunteer experience & causes.
ordained minister.
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Mephis
They claim it on their own FAQs. http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/no-paid-clergy/
"Following the model of first-century Christianity, Jehovah’s Witnesses have no clergy-laity division. All baptized members are ordained ministers and share in the preaching and teaching work. "
But they're not when it comes to anything which might inconvenience them because they're all laity too. Everyone's in charge, no-one's in charge, the GB are in charge. Depends who's asking the question, and which answer benefits them most at the time.
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Email request-Prayer Is Restricted!
by Atlantis inan answer to an email:.
atlantis, i have not installed the watchtower library cd as of yet, so could you copy and paste the article about prayer being restricted to unbaptized ones?
thanks in advance.
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Mephis
Filing this alongside 'the ransom sacrifice wasn't for you' as one of those which totally slipped by me whilst inside.
Let me get this straight. God isn't guaranteed to listen if you're not baptised. Even if he is guaranteed to listen, he isn't going to answer unless you ask for something he wants to do anyway? So even if you're not guaranteed to be heard, and ask for something he wants to do, you're still heard? And if you ask for something he doesn't want to do, it doesn't matter if he hears you or not?
Yossarian whistled. "That's some catch", he said.
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Which bible character do you hate the most?
by Bonsai inthe more i think about it, the more i feel an extreme dislike for the apostle paul.
he was on par with hitler in his treatment of the jews before he "saw the light".
he replaced jesus teachings of love and mercy with a more legalistic, pharisaical concept of devotion to god.. any evil person can come to believe in god and worship him if the scales were literally and miraculously removed from his eyes.
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What others have said of old testament blood and thunder psychopath god. And then Paul, again as others have said. If there ever was a man who needed some bedroom fun, it's him. -
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Jehovah's Witness spared jail over grooming girl
by Researchedandenlightened inhttp://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/crime/jehovah-s-witness-spared-jail-over-grooming-girl-1-7551106.
a jehovah's witness who groomed a girl has walked free from court.. .
richard ogilvie was given a suspended prison sentence after a judge ruled his conduct was 'bad, but not as bad as some cases we see before these courts'.. the victim's father said he 'understands and accepts' the sentence and hopes the sex offender treatment ogilvie receives will prevent another child and family suffering at his hands.. .
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Mephis
falseprophet - as I said in the very first words of the post you quote from, "keep in mind the crime he was found guilty of".
If you have information which can protect others in the future, which would lead to a stronger sentence for a convicted sex offender, then it's on you to report that to the police.
If this is ongoing abuse, then you can contact the NSPCC too. 0808 800 5000 is their number. They can also advise you on the proper course of action even if it is just suspicion.
The safety of children and teens has to be the priority over whatever dispute you have with Simon, surely?
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Seems odd that the Bible never mentions Pryamids?
by dropoffyourkeylee indoesn't it seem strange that the bible never mentions the pyramids?
how could someone go to egypt at that time and not even so much as mention the huge monuments?
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Mephis
There isn't really much directly referencing the pyramids at Giza in any written sources until the Hellenistic period and Herodotus' account.
That's not really unusual for ancient buildings. The largest tomb known in Greece, and what appears to be a major cult site, is currently under excavation at Amphipolis. Nobody seems to have bothered mentioning it in any works about Macedonia or Thrace or Greece or even the city itself. People didn't write travel guides til much later. Your best bet for references to buildings is when someone has a trumpet to blow about what part they played in its construction or in its maintenance. 'I did that' sort of thing in an inscription somewhere around the building itself etc.
The one thing which the Israelites are meant to have built in Egypt which can be identified with some certainty is the city of Ramesses (Pi-Ramesses). Sadly it doesn't fit the biblical chronology, it was built a century and more after the Exodus is meant to have happened, nor was it a store city - it was actually a royal summer city and then the capital for a period. Someone was likely aware of the ruins to create the little backstory for them at a later date though.
