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  Christadelphian

  by Billy1000 in

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  my name is stephen and i am new to the forum.

  i am a christadelphian and through my discussions with fellow members of my ecclesia it has inspired me to reach out to other religions to find out exactly what others believe to enhance my own faith and further bring me closer to our heavenly father.

  in no way do i mean disrespect if it has been caused.

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  Mephis

  Yeah, you won't get many converts here Billy. Although you may get more willing to listen and debate sensibly than you would on a site of active believing JWs.

  Just on the 'proof' thing, using the bible to prove the bible doesn't really work for anyone but those who already believe in the bible. And the (non-biblical) evidence for Jesus is at best that a man lived, a man was executed, and a bunch of people said lots of things about him after he died. I don't argue that he lived, nor that he was executed, but if I accept that he did miracles and got resurrected and there was a zombie apocalypse (Matthew) etc etc, then I've got to accept similar stories for a whole host of other semi-historical characters too. Which then makes Jesus less extraordinary. Or I can just reject all those stories, and Jesus becomes much more mundane.

  In any case, regards and good luck with your own personal search for truth.
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  Audio link to talk I gave in 2001-"BROOKLYN GIRL." In it I discuss my conversation with Don Adams, Pres. of WTB&TS of PA, about a child

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://watchtowerdocuments.org/brooklyn-girl/.

  in may of 2001, i attended a small conference in soap lake, washington, where some thirty former jehovah’s witnesses (jws) were gathered.

  the conference was sponsored by the late richard rawe.

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  Mephis

  Just additional external support to that suggestion from Britain very recently. "A perfect storm" for abuse as Stewart said at ARC.

  From the (British) National Crime Agency's October 2013 report into abuse within organisations (CEOP Thematic Assessment The Foundations of Abuse: A thematic assessment of the risk of child sexual abuse by adults in institutions), the key findings:

  1. Children in institutional settings are not only at risk from adults who are inclined to abuse them sexually; but also from adults who either fail to notice abuse or, if they do, fail to report it.

  2. Where institutions put their own interests ahead of those of the children who engage with them, abusive behaviours are likely to become normalised, potentially leading to sexual abuse.

  3. The culture within an institution has a strong influence on the degree to which abuse might occur within it. Poor leadership, closed structures, ineffective policies and procedures together with the discouragement of reporting, facilitates a malign climate which colludes with those inclined to sexually abuse children.

  4. Where institutions are held in high regard and respected by the communities they serve, positional grooming can be perpetuated, whereby offenders conduct social or environmental grooming and mask their actions by virtue of their formal positions within an organisation.

  5. Potential risks from those with a sexual interest in children who pursue work in institutions can be mitigated by vigilant and effective leadership and management.

  6. Intense loyalty and conformity of workers to the mission, norms and values of an institution can inhibit them from reporting concerns.

  7. The historic nature of many cases currently exercising media attention, together with developments in safeguarding, might give a false perception that this type of offending can no longer occur. Offenders continue to exploit systemic vulnerabilities where they exist
  

  http://www.nationalcrimeagency.gov.uk/publications/49-ceop-institutions-thematic-assessment/file

  https://www.ceop.police.uk/
  
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  Where are the EXJW Feminist Philosophers?

  by Luther bertrand in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am working, more in the planning stages, where i am going to offer a commentary on the caleb and sophia cartoons that the org puts out.

  i noticed a heavily patriarchal bent to the narrative that these cartoons offer.

  i would really enjoy working with someone who has an academic background in feminist philosophy, or at least someone knowledgeable.

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  Mephis

  Regardless of where feminism is in other areas, a feminist critique of JW world has the potential to offer up useful insights. As feminist criticism has done in the past for other fields.

  One of the most useful things I ever had done for me when I had physically left but was still carrying a lot of JW theological baggage was a (female) Anglican theologian rip the New Testament apart using feminist criticism. Stripping things back to a counter-history where the message to women of Luke's gospel is taken up, rather than a (patriarchal) hierarchy imposed.

  All those JW assumptions which you really don't notice growing up with a penis but of which if you chat with female ex-jws they were or came to be very aware.

  I'd personally read with interest if anyone were able to do that. It may well be niche, but so are many other things.
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  Bloodless Medicine....not all its cracked up to be.

  by Lee Elder in

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  2. medical

  this is a pretty good example of the limitations of "bloodless medicine", and why the informed choice should always be "blood conservation" medicine, which retains the safety net of blood transfusion when medically required.

  sadly, the watchtower fails to inform jws regarding these important limitations, and their potentially disastrous consequences.. http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202750028414/jury-awards-100k-to-family-of-jehovahs-witness-who-died-after-refusing-blood-transfusion?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=3&slreturn=20160118223352.

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  Mephis

  Thanks for posting article DoC.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

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  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  Below find information coming directly from a representative of the Charity Commission in answer to the question about mandatory reporting in the UK and should for all practical purposes be recognized as an expert's reply.

  Aye. The debate in Britain has been around if and how far to criminalise a failure to report rather than a need to discuss whether it should happen. Hopefully Goddard and McClellan will help provide some guidance towards what would work best in a British context, especially with groups who refuse to recognise their duty to protect children. I would personally welcome further strengthening measures on corporate responsibility to ensure adequate policies are in place. Tired of seeing those who make the decisions sit back and disclaim responsibility for their actions whilst survivors have to fight through civil courts to get restitution.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

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  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  I'll go with option 'you're a troll' and listen to Jeb. You've been very clearly answered sufficient times. And the same answer applies to JWs too. Just so's you don't get too excited about it being different. :)
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  Let me rephrase it for you one last time then. Anglican priests, in common with everyone else in Britain apart from social workers and the police, are not mandated by law to report. However focusing solely on the legislation here in Britain is kind of dumb because our society does not work solely from what gets written on vellum.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  I'll repeat the answer for you again. The only people in Britain mandated by law to report are the police and social workers. But reducing the question to that in Britain is bordering on the cretinously simple. Our system is not the same as the one in the USA.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  I don't understand the question.(ah edit ok) Let me explain how it works here.

  There are currently few professions in Britain who are legally (as in written into law) required to report. Police and social workers and... I can't recall off top of my head. But few. People like teachers aren't legally required to report. But people like teachers have professional bodies who regulate them who demand that they report or they can face professional sanctions if they are discovered not to have reported.

  Away from that we allow religions to claim huge tax subsidies by accepting that they are charities. Because they are charities, they are expected to follow a basic set of ethical standards set out by the Charity Commission. That does include letting the Charity Commission know about serious crimes, it also involves having adequate child safeguarding policies. So JWs, like every other religion claiming charitable status, falls under those regulations.

  So we have a very different system here to the one in other common law countries. For the moment. We have a big judicial inquiry under way called the Goddard Inquiry. What comes out of that will shape child safeguarding for a long time in this country. As will ARC's findings placed alongside it. But that's for the future.

  Hope that's a clear enough potted history. You only got it because Kasich is boring me.
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  News Flash: New Reveal Article

  by Sugar Shane in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  less than an hour old:.

  https://www.revealnews.org/blog/how-child-sex-abusers-get-reinstated-as-jehovahs-witnesses/.

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  Mephis

  I'd say you're welcome Fisherman, but you're randomly generating your own facts without any regard to reality so nothing to do with me :)

  Now you've edited that post, it makes no sense whatsoever btw Fisherman. Just sayin'. But yes, I'd agree JWs should, the Anglicans should, the Catholics should... do I need to list every religious group in Britain or can we just skip to "if you have a duty of care or are in a position of trust, you should report abuse to appropriate agencies". It's really simple. In fact, adequate child safeguarding policies are part of the deal for receiving tax payer subsidy here.