yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
DocHouse - you're right, you don't understand where I'm coming from.
Can you please explain why people living in, say, the UK need to have a witness but people living in Saudi Arabia don't?
'Global, life-saving preaching work' is pure WTS propaganda, nothing more.
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
DocHouse - if Christ will judge people living in China, Saudi, etc. that didn't receive a witness then wouldn't that make the preaching work unnecessary?
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
DocHouse - I mentioned the other religions because the WTS has, throughout its history, loudly and persistently attacked the Catholic church whilst staying remarkably silent on the subject of atrocities committed in the name of other religions, Islam in particular. You've yet to properly address why this is so.
Large areas of the globe do not get JWs knocking on their doors. If Armageddon happened tomorrow, what would happen to the hundreds of millions of decent, ordinary folk in China, India, Pakistan, N. Korea, Saudi Arabia, etc who are ignorant of WTS? As the apostle Paul said, how would any honest-hearted ones know the truth without somebody to preach it to them?
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
Those religions [Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam] are complete fabrications - but isn't 'Churchianity' fabrication, too?. I don't think you've given this much thought,TBH.
"Creationnist propaganda" comes from Churchianity- not science - are JWs creationists or scientists?
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
The Truth stands on its own- but a lot of absurd opinion is still being ADDED to it - and truth + absurd opinion = ?
DocHouse, I notice that you've spoken quite a bit about 'Churchianity' but nothing about Hinduism, Buddhism and Islam. Why is this?
i found this article interesting & just wanted to share.
after going through my teenage years trying to be the perfect jw, i realized that trying to live up to the standards imposed on me have been for worse & not for better.
i was feeling miserable, repressed, unfulfilled, with a great lack of self confidence & self esteem.
Sexual freedom is something personal that NO organization, religious or otherwise should control in females, males, anybody - quite right. What consenting adults choose to do in private is their business and nobody else's.
Truly a sociopathic organization - again, spot on. I get the feeling WTS would rather everyone remained celibate and certainly didn't enjoy sex. Although I think that marriage is a good thing for consenting adults, the WT's attitude to sex is comparable to Victorian London's. Growing up in the WTS is an absolute nightmare for teenage boys (and teenage girls, I suppose).
yes- everyone has faults and makes mistakes; an organization even more so.. yet, you ignore all the fingers pointing at you.. many here have no faith.
many here go to churches who lie about everything biblical; look at x-mas!.
but at least we know god and christ and try to live up to their name!.
DocHouse - please be careful when using the word 'fact'. For something to be established as fact, empirical evidence must be used.
Also, why are you here on an apostate forum?
You defend 'da troof' yet criticise the GB here.
well, the switchover happened - there were a couple of things i had to fix which meant the posting was disabled for longer than i planned but it's now enabled and some people have already posted.. if you have any questions about the new format or suggestions on how to improve it, please post them here.. if you are having trouble signing in or posting then you'll need to email me instead.. many thanks to everyone for their patience during the changeover !.
Good job on the new website, Simon. It's better for touchscreen than the old JWN but I'm still getting used to it.
Just one thing, the post number out of total posts besides the avatar is missing - could this be introduced here?
watchtower considers masturbation to be a form of uncleanness but not a disfellowshipping offence because the bible says nothing about masturbation.
a jw who masturbates is likely to face no more than losing privileges in the congregation.. like masturbation, smoking is considered by jws to be a form of uncleannes and like masturbation, the bible says nothing about it.
but a jw who smokes faces disfellowshipping.. yes, smoking is known to be deleterious to a person's health whereas the jury is still out on the adverse health effects of masturbation.
In answer to the OP, the WT's position is not consistent. I had one elder, in a round about way, tell me my mum would die at Armageddon because she didn't stop smoking.
OTOH all, or nearly all, teenage boys masturbate and are made to feel guilty for it by WTS. This guilt can be used to push people into doing more for the org - getting baptised, pioneering, etc.
an athist made this casual statememt on another thread:.
this would suggest to me that there are at least some atheists that do have consistant beliefs.. .
as an atheist, how could he possibly trust the reason that suggests this to himself?
Perry - why do you start a thread that deliberately yanks the chain of atheists, yet you also state in the OP Atheists Don't Exist.
You can't have it both ways.
