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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

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when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

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@Rubadub - your poll doesn't necessarily suggest that the boss' behaviour is racist, instead it may suggest that political correctness has permeated most aspects of our lives, including the working environment.

We need to go back to the Oxford dictionary definition of racism.

1 Prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against someone of a different race based on the belief that one's own race is superior.

1.1 The belief that all members of each race possess characteristics, abilities, or qualities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.

^^^ Using the definition as a guide, is Trump racist? Was what he said racist?

https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/racism

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

I also think that if I were to say that to the four workmates -- even people I don't like and who don't like me -- there's no doubt that it would be coming from a racially motivated place.

That's why I would't ever say anything like that - a lot of people wouldn't say that because they have a filter, they realise that certain things are sensitive or could be taken in a certain way.

Telling people to go back to where they came is definitely said by actual racist people, but the sentence 'why don't you go back to where you came from ...' is ambiguous.

If Trump had been having a war of words with John Oliver and he told him the same, I don't think there'd be this much fuss and accusations of racism.

Again, the evidence that supports Trump's supposed racism is ambiguous at best.

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

I get into a major fight about some company policy or procedure. One of the women even calls me a mf-er in front of everyone at work - that's not the correct analogy.

The correct analogy would be: you and these 4 women get into a major war of words, one of the 4 women, a new recruit, says she's gonna have your ass fired or arrested and calls you MF.

Then you say, hey why don't these four go back where they came from and fix stuff, etc.

Trump's a brash, ugly-talking New Yorker who has no filter whatsoever. But that doesn't mean he's racist.

As an aside, there's a nice guy in the UK called Karl Pilkington. He and Ricky Gervais have a radio talk show. Karl has no filter and no idea about sensitivity. He was talking about Rosa Parks and said why didn't she want to sit at the back of the bus - she's lazy (XD). He had no idea that his words are offensive. He didn't see Rosa Parks as a person of colour, he just saw her as a person. He doesn't really think how his words calling her lazy have anything to do with a negative stereotype or unacceptable generalisation of black people as being lazy.

I think Trump is more aware than Karl Pilkington but he's in a war of words with political opponents. He was just saying some ugly stuff in response. Does Trump usually go up to people of colour and tell them to go home?

I don't think so.

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

I still think Trumps tweets -- the Tweets I read with my own two eyes on twitter -- about the 4 women clearly express a strong nationalistic sentiment (I think it would be difficult to refute that) and are at the very least racially charged - ok, but we must consider the context to those words. The context is that Trump and the 4 women are having an ugly war of words. Again, one of the women (I think it was the Palestinian-American) started her political career with 'let's impeach that MF.'

If someone went up to some random person of colour on the street and said 'get back to where you came from!', well, that's obviously very different.

I don't know about Trump's other tweets (it might be useful if you provide those) but re Trump vs the 4 Dem women, there is a context to his words.

Do I think Trump's words are ugly? Yes.

Do I think Trump should modulate his future speech? Yes, that would be good. I've already said in a previous post that, although Trump's blunt speech may have been refreshing to some in 2016 when he was taking on the political establishment, such refreshing bluntness can quickly grow tiresome, plus these are tumultuous times for the US in 2019. Trump would do well to adapt.

Is Trump a racist? The jury's still out on that one. (Supporting evidence needed.)

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

How do we convince white nationalists he isn't? - well, for a start, white supremacists believe one race is superior to another. That's unreasonable, so I wouldn't bother wasting my time on those losers.

But, most important, it shouldn't be up to us to prove a negative.

The onus lies on all the journos and politicians who day-in, day-out call Trump racist, to provide clear evidence of Trump's racism.

Trump telling Ilhan Omar, AOC, etc. to go home isn't evidence of racism. Those four women and Trump are fighting each other. I believe it was Tleib, the Palestinian-American, who started her political career with 'let's impeach that mother f**ker'.

Trump and those 4 women are having a war of words that's quite ugly. But none of that proves Trump a racist.

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

Yeah, no culty black and white thinking to see here lol. Very constructive conversation - this OP is basically push-back against how things are portrayed in the mainstream media ... 'Orange Man bad; activists good'.

The reason why we're having these discussions is because the MSM is black and white in their articles. Alex Cortez can call immigration centres 'concentration camps', and expect no MSM calls for her to watch her language when an ICE center gets firebombed; but Trump gets called a white supremacist who must watch his language after a shooter goes on a rampage.

Black-and-white thinking AND ridiculous double standards from our media.

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

Here's some info from a left-leaning, Cortez-supporting media outlet, Huff Post:

Cortez wants to get rid of the Department of Homeland Security (DHS).

“Would you get rid of Homeland Security?” the interviewer asked.

“I think so. I think so,” Ocasio-Cortez responded

And what does DHS do?

Homeland Security, with over 200,000 employees, has a mission of

“preventing terrorism; securing our borders; enforcing immigration laws; securing cyberspace; and ensuring disaster response and resilience.”

So, does AOC really want secure borders?

Hmmm ...

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ocasio-cortez-department-homeland-security_n_5d267d65e4b0cfb596005238?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9jb25zZW50LnlhaG9vLmNvbS9jb2xsZWN0Q29uc2VudD9zZXNzaW9uSWQ9M19jYy1zZXNzaW9uXzc3MDA5MTRjLTMwYjItNGQ2NC1iMWViLWIwMjdmYTE5ODk2MCZsYW5nPWVuLXVzJmlubGluZT1mYWxzZQ&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMAcx-swCYWBFI6KW3loBHRWRk58bm1sgtWVemSsAxVR49islV5APMEuyzv8rCJvewNoXYHo3fQ-Ccp95B0MeY8mYhxirgd3-toLglX6jl7Mh29RctKGLko-Sgh64Zr8hHo75SFb2q5HE75BdD5M5_4CHF8mVv0z0y3LLqarPgT3

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

^^^ Hahahahaha!

Gotta love AOC.

She's kinda cute and I think she believes she's right but facts win again over fee-fees.

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If the UK leaves the EU WITHOUT a deal.....

by The Fall Guy in

.....it would appear that the republic of ireland (not the uk) is responsible under eu law for the setting up of a hard border with its non-eu neighbour, northern ireland.

just as spain had to do with ceuta in morocco.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ceuta_border_fence.

a 310 mile border would cost a helluva lot to build and to cover with security.

LoveUniHateExams

Just to add, people sometimes talk about the reunification of Ireland and Scottish independence as 'breaking up the UK' - not true.

I don't mind if N. Ireland and Scotland leave the UK - the UK will continue to exist, and the remaining members (England, Wales, Isle of Man, Falklands, etc.) will continue to get the benefits.

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Do You Think Trump Bares Any Responsibility For The Mass Shootings Occuring?

by minimus in

jw
friends

when any mass shooting happens is it the president’s fault?

i’m talking over the last few decades..

LoveUniHateExams

@Humphry

If Trump needs to tone down his rhetoric because of the El Paso shooter, then does Alex Cortez need to tone down her rhetoric about US 'concentration camps' after the attempted ICE fire bombing?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander ...