we already know how jws will respond ( on a pole).
but i found an article that talks about jws views on how jesus died.
i didn't know that there was a time when jws accepted the cross unlike now.
If the Romans wanted to kill someone, they wouldn't go all PC Snowflake - indeed.
I remember one 'argument' the WTS has for a stake and not a cross is that the supposed origin of the cross is for the pagan god Tammuz.
The WTS claims (I think) that this makes the cross pagan. Well, so what? The Romans, being pagan themselves at that point, wouldn't give a crap, would they ...
alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.
this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.
it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.
Just to sum up this thread so far ... Cofty wants to have a dialogue about evolution with Alex Williams.
Alex posted a comment about abiogenesis, not evolution. Then he posted a comment about how he doesn't need to prove anything, he just knows.
Alex, please reconsider and join in the conversation.
There are many talking points about evolution.
we already know how jws will respond ( on a pole).
but i found an article that talks about jws views on how jesus died.
i didn't know that there was a time when jws accepted the cross unlike now.
This form of capital punishment is called crucifixion.
So, the Romans put people to death on a cross, perhaps?
alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.
this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.
it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.
@TD - those skulls you posted, I'm guessing the four on the right belong to the genus Homo.
Is that correct?
PS - the four on the left don't. They belong to other genera, Paranthropus and Australopithecus perhaps.
alex - thank you for your offer to have a conversation about evolution.. i accept the scientific evidence that all life - including humans - evolved from a common ancestor through unguided evolution over millions of years.
this isn't even a controversial position in the scientific community.. the evidence rests on the data from many interconnected fields including paleontology, comparative anatomy, geology and especially genetics.
it is no exaggeration to say that the evidence for your own non-human ancestry is contained in every cell in your body.. it is my experience that jws are generally quite ignorant (not in a pejorative sense) of the scientific case.
Here is a piece of data ...
It's a fossil of a young male who lived more than 1 million years ago.
Evolution has it that we share a common ancestor with the great apes and extinct species of Homo, and modern humans evolved gradually hundreds of thousands of years ago. JWs believe that all life was created by God, and that humans, a special act of creation, are 6,000 years old at the most.
How well does the above piece of evidence fit into the theory of evolution? ... And how well into the biblical belief in divine creation?
ok... so the william sisters have in the past spoken openly about their faith by saying they are jehovah witnesses.
but do they attend regular meetings?
door to door ministry?
The Williams sisters aren't baptized.
They can claim to be JWs but they aren't really. Which is no bad thing.
Serena's currently fighting sexism in tennis as the pro grand slam tournaments have only given her 23 singles' titles.
recently a friend and i were having a conversation about the news media.
he is a democrat but he’s also a very reasonable person.
i’ve known him for many years.
@PeacefulPete - 'media have never been trustworthy so let's just carry on with untrustworthy media.'
Accept it, people!
Pathetic.
........so far to date.
you've been warned....https://youtu.be/jjjnt5l5ts0.
domestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.
you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.
based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?
The elders are of no real help in situations like this.
They are unqualified people who put their sole hope in a book written by Bronze Age goat herders. Not good.
Professional people need to be involved - counsellors, psychiatrists, maybe the police. You get my drift.
domestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?!.
you are starting to know me by now as i’m always full of questions... my clogs are always in motion and never stop... so another question for you to give me some guidance if you can.
based on pasts experience or cases you might heard of or seen, what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control?
Domestic violence in the “tooth”... is this a thing?! - yes it is, sadly.
Domestic violence happens in families of all backgrounds. It happens among atheists, among religious people, etc.
It can be men on women and women on men.
It happens among gay couples, too.
I don't know whether there are higher or lower level of domestic violence among JWs, or whether that even matters.
But it's a sad and illegal thing that needs tackling.
what advice could you give me in helping someone that is a Jehovah witness, married with another jw but lives a marriage that is plagued by emotional domestic abuse and financial control? - I'm not sure. How bad is the domestic abuse? Does it include physical abuse?
