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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

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yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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There are gay men who in times past would have married and had a family, now choose not to do so because they feel free to live life as they would rather it - this is true, and it's good.

There are women would have stayed in unhappy marriages in times past now have greater economic freedom and choose to not to stay in such a marriage - ditto.

yet they clearly also undermine the frequency and normativity of marriage - this is correct, although such number of cases wouldn't be large.

Gay marriage clearly destabilised the whole notion of what marriage and family are - no, I don't think so.

We've taken to gay marriage relatively smoothly. It was even a Tory PM who passed it through Parliament.

I think something else has been used to attack the traditional family.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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because the same economic forces that gave women the vote and decriminalised homosexuality also destabilised the family unit and called into question the boundaries of gender and sexuality - no, I don't think so.

Women got the vote and homosexuality became decriminalised. I don't see how either would destabilise the family.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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Modern culture doesn't necessarily do much for women - modern culture maybe lies to women to some degree, too.

It effectively says to young women 'you can go to uni, get a PhD, become a director of the board, AND have as many babies as you want.'

Well, ladies, you can't. Only a tiny number of people (men and women) are that capable, and even they get where they get to by making sacrifices.

Y'know, some of my mates from childhood are now married with kids. When I look at their wives' FB page, it'll say something like 'full-time mummy and proud of it'. They are happy. They want to be mums to their kids, like most women do.

Of course, let ambitious people realise their ambitions, or have the best possible chance to realise their ambitions.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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Ask people how to define Marxism and you get everything from far left to far right notions. It's a catch all label for ideologies as widely separated as Leninism and Nazism - no, not true. Nobody mixes up Nazism and Marxism.

There is some confusion between socialism and communism, mainly because the Oxford dictionary definition for both is virtually identical. Also, both socialists and communists take their ideas from Karl Marx.

But whether it's called socialism, communism or Marxism, it's fairly common for political gays to carry signs and banners that say 'smash capitalism', etc.

^^^ see?

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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Candace Owens .... yeah, we're at Candace Owens now - by all means criticise Candace Owens or critique her comments. She's not perfect.

^^^ But this comment just isn't good enough. XD

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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Until the twentieth century, capitalism promoted what we consider the “traditional” family and gender roles - yes, this is true. Although other systems also promoted the same thing. Promoting traditional families and gender roles wasn't unique to capitalism.

So can we return to traditional definitions of gender and sexuality - I don't think this is what people like Owens and Murray want.

We have a great many freedoms - freedom to be gay, unmarried, trans, whatevs - and we want to keep that.

What we desperately need is common sense. Sexual and other minorities are fine but they are minorities, numerically speaking. Each member matters as an individual but the % of people who are trans, for example, is statistically insignificant.

The solution to this is to put individual identity over group identity.

That's the problem with identity politics - and it's what Murray and Owens were discussing - identity politics puts group identity above anything else. So you end up with an ideology that seeks to strait-jacket people, metaphorically speaking.

Not all black men love hip-hop or rap. Some may like chess or ballet.

Not all gay men like 'gay' things, etc.

Edit: yes, I think Murray and Owens want to return to traditional definitions of gender but not sexuality.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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The word "dangerous" was used how many times? - maybe because history teaches us what happens when identity politics are embraced and enforced. You end up with piles and piles of dead bodies.

See - the Nazis, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc. etc.

Identity politics never ends well.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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Owens at the end simply asserted that when trying to improve the "goodness" of the world you have no other path but corruption and dishonesty, "there is no other way" she insisted - I'll have to listen to the conversation again but I thought Owens suggested that when people pursue 'goodness' then they're more likely than those who pursue 'truth' to fall into corruption and dishonesty.

I lost count how many times they suggested "no one else" was talking about this or that topic - they may be wrong in this claim, although very few people are successfully talking about this or that topic without feeling consequences. - see what happened to Heather Heying and her husband, for example.

The promise of "freedom" and liberation by abandoning "liberalism" and "leftism" said with born-againerlike eyes - nothing 'born-again' about that conversation at all. Born-againer-like eyes? I don't think so.

This probably in their minds justifies their impugning ulterior motives and envisioning power grabbing conspiracies by "Marxists" - well, Marxists have multiplied in universities all over the US, Canada and the UK. I can see why some people speak of a 'power grab'.

These are about the only thing that has actually changed since the 90's - quite a bit has changed since the 90s. Life on campus has changed, with deranged outrage over all manner of perceived and real social transgressions, students demanding and getting safe spaces, etc.

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

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One particular point was the following from Murray: go to Google Images and type in 'black couples' and note the results.

Now type in 'white couples' and note the search results.

Do the same, replacing the adjective with gay/homosexual ... and finally heterosexual or straight.

Interesting ...

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Candace Owens interviews Douglas Murray

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so the candace owens show is apparently in london and douglas murray is the person interviewed.. they cover a range of topics that are current and connected to murray's new book (the madness of crowds: gender, race and identity).. i've not got his new book but it seems to be good.

owens and murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.. enjoy .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9yqrby9q.

LoveUniHateExams

Yeah, so The Candace Owens Show is apparently in London and Douglas Murray is the person interviewed.

They cover a range of topics that are current and connected to Murray's new book (The Madness of Crowds: Gender, Race and Identity).

I've not got his new book but it seems to be good. Owens and Murray both make good points and it's a joy to listen to them together.

Enjoy ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4o9YqRBY9Q