@objectivetruth - sorry that your friend's given you the cold shoulder.
Remember, though, that he doesn't mean it personally - he is under cult mind control.
Sorry, non parlo italiano, 'tutto è bene che riesce bene' = 'all's well that ends well?'
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JW Friend was Married this Weekend. Tutto è bene che riesce bene.
by objectivetruth ina close jw friend of mine, got married this weekend.ever since he and i meet (13 years ago) when we were both 18 we've been close and we've experienced different life experiences together.. our qualities, have complemented each other well over the years..he the voice of responsibility and reservedness, & i the voice of spontaneity and passion.i taught him about life and he taught me about perseverance through trial.. i care about justice, he cares about reputation.he is a better person then i will ever be, but so stricken by society.. i always stuck my neck out for him, but our friendship was the thorn in his reputations side.he was on the path to mts, and i was on the path of frivolity.despite all this.. when the 2 of us were together, free from the scrutiny of the outside world he was himself, and he was a great friend.
though naive about much, he always tried to do what he could to be a friend.. i was there when he and his now wife first started dating.. i envisioned him marrying her, and my wife & i spending many enjoyable times with them as a couple.. shortly after they meet my wife & i learned ttatt.. i explained my findings to him as i did with all my friends and family.
he being a person, whom i perceived to have great deal of biblical knowledge, i expected valiant effort coming from him to "help me" see where i had erred.all i got was a email with 3 irrelevant watchtower articles & some even more irrelevant scriptures.. i would have surely been his best man, but instead another mutual jw friend was asked.i am not da'd or df'd but this is the pseudo non-invitation that he sent :.
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Does science enhance nature or dilute it for you?
by snare&racket inmake a nice mug of hot choc, or your favourite tea/coffee and snuggle up with an inspirational mind...... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgaw9qe7dee.
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Thanks for the link, s&r.
Interesting debate with some good points made.
The christian's idea of evidence, as prof. Wolpert pointed out, is absolutely ridiculous.
When I was younger and a true believer, I once gave my grandfather (agnostic/atheist, doctor of chemistry) the creation book. I can still remember one of his comments that he wrote in the margin in the chapter laying out the Genesis 'account': 'the writer assumes the existence of God - why should I believe this?'
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Does science enhance nature or dilute it for you?
by snare&racket inmake a nice mug of hot choc, or your favourite tea/coffee and snuggle up with an inspirational mind...... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgaw9qe7dee.
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ADCMS - good post. Sagan makes good points that I hadn't really considered before.
Also, perhaps evolution using the scientific method, explains spirituality. I am ignorant of this but would love to study religion/spirituality from an evolutionary perspective.
I read a book on human evolution that contained details of fossilised camp sites used by H. sapiens, H. ergaster, H. erectus and other species (I think).
Maybe there exist fossilised shrines too?
Cofty, oubliette, S&R, anyone?
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Does science enhance nature or dilute it for you?
by snare&racket inmake a nice mug of hot choc, or your favourite tea/coffee and snuggle up with an inspirational mind...... https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bgaw9qe7dee.
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Can't watch the vid right now, I'm in a silent zone of the uni library.
But for now, I'll say enhance. The scientific method is the only way (or best way, if there are others) of studying nature.
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What a Waste...but i dont mind....
by new hope and happiness ini was listning to a song by ian dury " what a waste" such perfect and apt lyrics to explain my witness life.... anybody got any songs that explain there watchtower existence?.
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Good thread, nhah.
Holding Back the Years - Simply Red.
Out of Time - Blur.
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Feeling sad over a wasted life in watchtower
by wannaexit init's been 12 years since i first read ray franz's books and the scales came off my eyes.
by that time i was in my forties.. since 2002 i went back to school and have worked with 3 very professional organizations.
but my biological clock is ticking away and while my peers are looking forward to retirement, i am only beginning.
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Hi wannaexit.
As some others have said, it's ok how you feel about the past.
Don't allow yourself to become swallowed up by feelings - nobody can change the past so don't worry about it too much.
Keep doing what you're doing - living life as best you can now and for the future.
I think I'll get off my soap-box now.
All the best
LUHE
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What should the WBT$ do to get on track?
by punkofnice init looks as if the gb are blundering around and really showing themselves up for the buffoons they are.
all the stupidity about tight trousers is laughable and if the general public were to see these selfmportant cult leaders blabbing this stuff then the last shred of their credibility would be destroyed.........perhaps.. the wbt$ seem to have dug themselves into a deep pit of no escape with their lies, new light(tm), paedophile protection and all the other nauseating peripherals they have.. we also suspect that the wbt$ have their spies here because they are either predictable or get ideas form forums like this.. so!
are you listening watchtower(r)?
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I know it's only opinions...but......what do you think the watchtower(tm) could do to gain credibility and boost their business again that would not just be for their benefit but the benefit of many?
Acknowledge and apologise for their mistakes, for starters.
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How Do You Answer Someone Who Says JWs Are Not False Prophets?
by minimus init used to bother me that people would say that about my well meaning religion.
how do you prove that witnesses are indeed, false prophets?.
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Excellent thread, minimus.
This is the take-home point: none of the Society's prophecies has happened. Not one.
Christ's invisible presence since 1914 I'll leave for now - I'm feeling generous. Strictly speaking, it can't be proved one way or the other.
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Jehovah's Witnesses--- A Religion About Nothing
by minimus inthey say that seinfeld was a tv program about nothing.
in the end, it was all silliness.. this religion is inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
it's stupid.. .
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'When one elevates oneself to the position of "God's Chosen", that's when the mediocrity sets in'
If the GB truly were Christ's brothers, they'd be washing the feet of the r&f, as it were.
That they're not doing this shows that their attitude is far from Christ-like.
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Jehovah's Witnesses--- A Religion About Nothing
by minimus inthey say that seinfeld was a tv program about nothing.
in the end, it was all silliness.. this religion is inconsequential in the big scheme of things.
it's stupid.. .
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I agree with the OP, the WTS is inconsequential in the scheme of things.
Also, they promised us the earth, quite literally, and delivered jack sh1t - so in that sense too, they're the religion of nothing.
Maybe it's my fault that I fell for their nonsense, but the WTS definately owe all born-ins an explanation and an apology for discouraging education, for wasting years of their lives, for ill-equiping them for the realities of this world.