yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.
kids are still going to school (thank goodness!
) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.
Fact is we are only in a second lockdown in the UK - anyone know how many billions of pounds the two lockdowns have cost us so far?
How many small businesses have collapsed because of the two lockdowns?
Long term, we can't treat COVID and other diseases without a strong, thriving economy.
i gotta say, i don't know much about the solar system.
i never was particularly interested in it.. but i've recently read professor brian cox's book (which accompanies a bbc series) and it's completely fascinating.. i'm quite interested in pictures of mars.
martian landscapes seem familiar and different at the same time ….
This is Uranus.
^^^ It is tilted on its axis approx. 95 degrees. This means that it's kinda 'laying down' rather than 'standing up'. Its North Pole is on the right in this photo. Its thin rings are also visible.
It also has at least 27 moons.
Pretty amazing ...
i gotta say, i don't know much about the solar system.
i never was particularly interested in it.. but i've recently read professor brian cox's book (which accompanies a bbc series) and it's completely fascinating.. i'm quite interested in pictures of mars.
martian landscapes seem familiar and different at the same time ….
I gotta say, I don't know much about the Solar System. I never was particularly interested in it.
But I've recently read Professor Brian Cox's book (which accompanies a BBC series) and it's completely fascinating.
I'm quite interested in pictures of Mars. Martian landscapes seem familiar and different at the same time …
^^^ It could be a photo of the Sahara or Kalahari, but it's millions of miles away on the surface of Mars.
If anyone has got any interesting facts of photos of the Solar System, please post them!
yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.
kids are still going to school (thank goodness!
) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.
Allow hospitals to be overrun? - you keep saying this as if it would be a certainty if we did anything else other than a second national lockdown.
As I've said, several times, only the vulnerable groups should social distance, isolate, wear masks.
Everyone else should live their lives as normal.
Pubs, clubs, shops, etc., should all be open.
I think that in order to preserve the confidence in our elections it is time for Trump to now out gracefully - and drop the postal voting.
Elections must be clean.
yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.
kids are still going to school (thank goodness!
) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.
What would you do differently ? - well, Stan, it's pretty obvious.
NO NATIONAL LOCKDOWNS!
The virus is lethal to the elderly, the obese and the diabetic.
So only those vulnerable groups should isolate, observe social distancing, and wear masks.
Everyone else should be allowed to live their lives. Shops and work places should be open.
What we're doing at the moment is utter insanity. Lockdown after lockdown is ruining our economy. High Streets across Britain are abandoned. Small businesses are going under. Tax payers' cash is being pissed away on the furlough scheme (paying people NOT to work).
Boris is supposed to be a Tory Prime Minister. And he's f**king our economy!
He needs to stop listening to the tart he's shacked up with, and start listening to Tory MPs.
guess that is the sort of person being attracted to the truth these days!.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/yorkshire-ripper-peter-sutcliffe-thinks-22976938.
I don't know if heaven exists or not.
But what I do know is that Peter Sutcliffe (aka the 'Yorkshire Ripper') is taking a well-deserved dirt-nap.
It's a pity he didn't die decades ago, TBH ...
yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.
kids are still going to school (thank goodness!
) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.
The whole lockdown/anti-lockdown debate is a nonsense anyway - no, it's not. Ordering lockdowns has
1. ruined our economy (there is going to be a lot of pain as future generations pay back the Government's largesse with taxpayers' money)
2. eroded trust in our democratic system … our Government is currently ruling by diktat (for instance, this second lockdown wasn't debated in the House of Commons - Boris just announced it one Saturday evening, having followed 'The Science', - actually just listening to one point of view because there is no scientific consensus on how good lockdowns actually are).
What should have happened is the UK should have followed other competent governments in quarantining, testing, tracing, and isolating - agreed, this is a good point. Other countries' test and trace systems put ours to shame.
Encouraging people to argue over lockdowns is just a distraction from the hugest scandal of mismanagement and corruption in modern British governance - hmm, not sure about this. I think that lockdowns and political corruption are linked somehow and that this is up for discussion.
latest news announcement is that there are two companies that have developed a vaccine for the covid virus which they say they will start being distributing to the public in a matter of weeks.. one comes from a company called moderna (94.5% effective) and the other is from pfizer (90% effective).
if all things go to plan you could see things return to normal once the majority of the general public is vaccinated by easter of next year.. yoo hoo .
How does a government go about secluding people who are identified as being vulnerable health wise, putting them in isolation for undetermined amount of time while letting so called healthy people live a unrestricted normal active life ? - perhaps vulnerable groups should take precautions for themselves, or family members could take precautions for them.
(I love the way you just jump to the assumption that it's up to the government to take precautions for the citizenry, lol.)
good grief there some nutty people on this forum ! - stop judging people (or their mental health) just because those people think differently from you or approach a topic in a different way. It's not a good look, believe me.
latest news announcement is that there are two companies that have developed a vaccine for the covid virus which they say they will start being distributing to the public in a matter of weeks.. one comes from a company called moderna (94.5% effective) and the other is from pfizer (90% effective).
if all things go to plan you could see things return to normal once the majority of the general public is vaccinated by easter of next year.. yoo hoo .
maybe Sweden should have gone through some more lock downs ? - maybe if Sweden had total lockdowns, there'd be more Swedish deaths from things like depression, cancer, stroke, and other non-COVID issues.
The truth is that with a nation-wide lockdown, millions and millions of healthy teenagers and adults are having to obey the government's diktat even though COVID isn't lethal to them. It's frankly ridiculous.
It does make sense that left-wingers are for national lockdowns - it's quite a clever way to weaponize a crisis, using it to ruin capitalist economies ...
