it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
She is currently under FBI criminal investigation. If she is charged and indicted by the justice department, it would essentially end her campaign. ie. the evidence accumulated by the FBI would end her candidacy.
The American people would then have to decide/vote in the general election sans Hillary.
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
Its actually very simple. Turkey is Americas ally so I support them whether you understand that or not. I have many friends in their military and they are honorable people and are great pilots. So that skews my opinion.
Its your British Empire after WW1 who drew most of the artificial borders in the Middle East, Africa and around the world. If you want to use the reasoning of some on here about who to blame for the world situation as is, why not go back and blame British/French imperialism for all the worlds problems?
No I don't believe that any government does everything perfectly or wrongly all the time, whether its Bush or Obama etc.
Your silly left wing remarks about Republicans show your ignorance, but hey its only politics. This is nothing compared to facing down the enemy in battle. But then, you wouldn't understand that. You would just cower and try and crawl under a rock, soil yourself somewhere or play video games.
Left wingers like you don't want to have a debate on the issues and ideas. You want to throw rocks at those on the other side and look down your noses with some perverted sense of superiority, so I'm just returning this in kind back at you. Whether its Trump or Rubio or Ted Cruz etc etc..they will take down Mr.Sanders.
You can fawn all over the liar Hillary. The gutless heartless woman who lied to the families of my murdered comrades in front of their coffins about the bogus Benghazi video. She lied to their faces right there as did Obama, by blaming the video, when she knew all along that it was a terrorist attack. The woman who lied about coming under sniper fire in Bosnia, just like Brian Williams lied about. etc.etc.
The FBI will take her out long before the election in 2016. Then the American people will decide.
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
I think you don't want to understand what I am saying. I will make it simple for you.
Turkey has the right to do both. Defend its borders and its brothers across the border in Syria. The latter point is my opinion and that of the Turkish government with regard to the Turkmens, just like its your opinion that Turkey has overreacted to the Russian jets activities.You know who the Turkmens are right?
With regard to Article 5 of NATO, my comments on this are not simply about the possibility enacting it over this particular issue, but over the numerous times over the past few months that Russia has penetrated Turkish airspace and the over flights of Russian cruise missiles shot from ships in the Caspian Sea. Another provocation. You know what an F-16 is and a SU-24 are? I flew CF-18s and C-130s sir, so enough of your rabble on the aircraft. The radar records will be available in time. Your military and strategic expertise is extremely limited.
The Russian plane was fired upon approximately a half mile inside Turkish airspace. These planes fly very fast? understand? The plane and pilots dropped came down inside Syria but were shot at/downed while the plane was in Turkish airspace . The Obama administration has verified these facts and support the Turks. Are you running the Simon military intelligence/guess service over there?? Really. Support Obama on this one. Please don't contradict yourself again by not supporting Obama on his/US military intell evaluation.
Your left wing political commentaries don't bother me. You want to see a weak and diminished America. The election in 2016 will ultimately decide matters and be the Obama administrations final legacy and judgement by the American people not that of your sort. He and his party and Mr. Sanders will be defeated soundly. You have no say in the election because you can't vote in the US. Even Democrats.. members of his own party are splitting with this President on some issues regarding the Middle East.
Have you looked at Obamas and Hillary's approval/disapproval ratings lately? Obama has about 14 months left.
You love the liar Hillary apparently. She may be behind bars sooner than you think when the FBI finishes with her. Then you can't vote for Sandinista/socialismus Sanders.
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
Turkey has the right to defend its territorial integrity and airspace. The Russians have been quite brazen over the last few years trying to provoke/probe American and NATO airspace, and unfortunately for them, they got burned this time. Can you actually trust any Russian media reports? There is no free apolitical media left in Russia. The open VHF and UHF frequencies were used by Turkey to warn the Russian pilots as monitored by independent media sources.
These Russian pilots and planes are no match for American/NATO pilots. Even the F-16s which are over 30 yrs in service are superior to the SU-24s. Good for Turkey in defending itself. I don't condone the shooting up of parachuting pilots of course.
Latest news is that Putin has vowed "revenge" against Turkey. What does that mean exactly. Can we or do we even want to read Putins mind here? Will Obama finally listen and take into account his military intelligence on these matters. This is the first conflict of late where America does not have air superiority in numbers in such a conflict.
The Turks have the right to defend the indigenous Turkmens in northern Syria. The president of Turkey and Mr. Hollande are real leaders. One is a Muslim brotherhood member and the other an avowed socialist. They make Obama look like a pathetic wimp.
It will be interesting how this all plays out. God save America from this Obama/Clinton middle east policy. If the Turks evoke NATOs article 5, ie. collective NATO defense, will NATO come to Turkeys aide? Does Obama have the stomach for a fight? Americans are way ahead of Obama on this issue.
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
Your darling liar Hillary.., may not make it to the election if she is indicted for breaking numerous US statutes regarding destroying classified information and lying about all of this. As you know, she is currently under FBI investigation. Didn't Hillary and Kerry support and vote for the Iraq war while they were senators??
Whether you like it or not, Obama and his lefties own all of this. They could have kept a residual US force in Iraq, enough to deter Isis, but Obama and Hillary chose not to because of left wing political opinions such as yours. And Obama has changed course in Afghanistan. The US will leave a residual force there, instead of throwing up their arms and blaming Bush and allowing Isis to spread even more.
Well when Hillary is indicted, you'll be left with the Commie socialist Sanders..a caricature of western European socialisms failures....oh..I forgot..you can't vote in any US elections. Tisk...tisk..too bad. Marco Rubio is wipe out the Democrats.
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
Perceived US/NATO weakness invites Russian aggression. Obama cancelled the Eastern European missile defense. Obama and NATOs tepid response to Russian aggression in Ukraine and the annexation of Crimea. Russias brazen overflights near Alaska, England the Arctic?
USA failing to support their main ally in the region.. Israel. Agreeing to a terrible nuclear deal that gives Iran a nuclear weapon in 15 years? Providing the greatest/largest state sponsor of terror with $150 billion as part of this deal?? This is US and western strength and resolve? US giving the cold shoulder to Pres. Assisi of Egypt. The only Muslim leader in the region who has the courage to call for a reformation of their religion and call out radical clerics in his own country? The US fails to provide Egypt with the weapons it needs to fight ISIS in the Sinai? Who may Egypt turn to now for help?? GUESS.
I mean the list can go on and on and on. BTW wasn't it a terrible Republican candidate who first framed the current scenario as a prelude to a world war?
it seems unbelievable but turkey (a nato member state) shooting down a russian jet fighter on their syrian border seems to be "meh" news and no one is too bothered about it too much.. the world seems a bit upside down right now.
i don't think a lot of countries really know who the hell they are fighting and who is and isn't on their side in it all and really what is going on.. smaller incidents than this have led to major conflicts in the past but hopefully calm heads will prevail.
china shot down a us spy plane years ago and the world survived and forgot about it so things will move on i'm sure.. i'm guessing the price turkey pays for their gas supply from russia will be going up soon though.. man, that republican primary is sucking all the news attention from the room.
We should be worried for sure because of the Obama Aministration foreign policy and weakness.
We have gotten to this point because of the laissez faire attitude of the Obama Administration with this region. It has been Obamas policy to diminish US strength and influence in the region and give it up to Russia, and Iran with the vacuum that Obama created with the lack of any US leadership.
Obama has been projecting US weakness with their enemies and their allies in the region. The Obama administration foreign policy has created the massive Syrian refugee crisis by not having followed through with the line Obama drew. Where was the huge Obama concern for the Syrians who were victims of Assad and ISIS when Obama backed off the line in the sand and allowed ISIS to gain territory and Assad barrel bomb his own people?
From the beginning, one can argue that the US Obama Kerry Clinton foreign policy created ISIS, DAESH etc whatever you may want to call it.
Obama, drew a line in the sand with Assad and didn't follow through on the chemical weapons usage on the Syrian people. It is Obama who called ISIS as the JV team, completely underestimating the terror group. It was Obama who decided to not leave a residual US force in Iraq and not get a status of forces agreement there for political reasons. It was Obama who says that climate change is the greatest threat to world peace. It was Obama who called US policy in Libya and Somalia and Yemen a huge success. It was Obama who said on the same day of the Paris attacks, that ISIS was contained in Syria and Iraq. It was Obama who called the Paris attacks only a "set back". It was John Kerry who said that the Charlie Hebdo attacks had a rationale behind it, and then had to back off his remarks.
It was Hillary Clinton and Obama who crafted US foreign policy in the middle east, and who continue to downplay the seriousness of the current situation.
ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
For those that are interested in the real issues facing America, there is a debate tonight on Fox Business Channel. We should get some questions about economic policy, jobs and the platforms of the candidates. Topics that the other business channel didn't want to cover apparently.
Carson, Rubio and even Christie are leading Hillary nationally in the latest polling. Carson leads her by 10%. Its early, but we'll see. America doesn't need a 3rd Obama term, or a crackpot socialist grumpy old man as President.
ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
The moderator here is a very good provocateur apparently. I haven't ever commented on this site about Benghazi or the House hearings, so that's a new one on me. I am simply challenging his overtly false and misleading assertions and left wing political bias. just as he makes many anti conservative comments. My opinion. It is not personal. I am a conservative and proud to be so.
Mr. Bush has a very long and well documented political career as Governor of Florida. I don't particularly like him but I judge him on his record, and some of his family baggage follows him of course.
I enjoy having spirited and respectful exchanges about politics and world history.
My wife enjoys living here for half the year as do I. Warmer southern climates after the New Year.
ok, specifically he was talking about hitler.
apparently he was asked whether, if he could go back in time, he would kill him when he was a baby.. and he said "hell yeah !".
but still wtf?
Of course these are all your opinions based on your own overt political bias. That's fine. It seems that if one engages on this site with you on real issues of the day, such as issues that a legitimate US citizen would, you are shut down or your posts are deleted. Yes, read and quote Politico...Salon..MSNBC...or the Huffington Post..bastions of independent political thought. You're kidding right?
This is a typical response of the left wing. You really don't want to have a free and open debate on issues, but you simply want to lecture people on here with this nonsense. Running out red herrings and overt distractions from the real issues of the economy, jobs, economic freedom and personal liberty serves no one. Did you actually watch the CNBC and CNN Republican debates? Who could possibly think that that those debates served the voter? I am a US citizen living in Canada.
Vote for the democratic socialist or the overt liar who is under FBI investigation. Maybe they'll kiss the dead baby and harvest the body parts for profit. They can't get your vote. You can't vote in the US.
Mr. Cruz put it best
