Posts by sowhatnow

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True Apostates

by objectivetruth in

all truly great men & women of past & present all have something in common.. they stand up for truth.. "i am not bound to win, but i am bound to be true.

i am not bound to succeed, but i am bound to live by the light that i have.

i must stand with anybody that stands right, and stand with him while he is right, and part with him when he goes wrong.

sowhatnow

ah, but when was the first time the term apostate was used in the bible? what was the situation? and whom did the term apply to?

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Gerrit Losch's "I DO NOT ANSWER TO WATCHTOWER"

by Newly Enlightened in

in gerrit losch's public statement to the superior copurt of california.

http://www.watchtower.exposed/?p=364.

documents: https://www.dropbox.com/s/49zyexvagn7ux7j/losch%20public%20statement.jpg?dl=0.

sowhatnow

ok, so let me get this strait,

this man IS a member of the governing body,

but NOT a member of the watchtower?

SO who are members of the watchtower organization?

if that is the 7 or so million, people, then why are 'non members' making rules and doctrines for persons who are 'members' of what they are not?

AND If they are not members of the watchtower, its stands to reason that none of the governing body is, if he says hes not,

then they have no right to make decisions for the 7 million members or enforce them? how can you claim to have a heavenly calling and be the mouthpeice of God over an organization that you are not part of?

do i understand that correctly?

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Have you ever seen a ghost?

by KateWild in

i have never seen ghosts, or had any experiences relating to ghosts.

but i know that many have had personal experiences.

if you have had an experience, can you tell me what you think of this experiment as an explaination.

sowhatnow

who ya gonna call? ghostbusters? lol.

when i was 4 yrs old, on several occations, i firmly believe as a small toddler saw a ghost come into my room through

the outsde wall and walk across the room and get into bed with me. so then, when she reappeared,

as i saw this long haired tall thin woman walking towards me, id turn over and close my eyes tightly .

years and years later, when i told this expretience to my mom, she told me in that same apartment

she would feel as of she was being held down in bed, and couldnt move.

coincindence? she believes that this started when she began to study with her sister who was the first jw convert in our large family.

she then said satan was trying to get her to stop studying, lol. if she only knew....

now i ask, why would a 4 yr old child remember this so vivildy? or have dreams such as this?

makes me wonder. i ve had other experiences but im sure all of them were a result of the rem sleep?

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1969 "fact": You will never grow old in this present system of things

by Ding in

awake!

"if you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things.

because all the evidence in fulfillment of bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years... therefore, as a young person, you will never fulfill any career that this system offers.

sowhatnow

wow this is funny this should come back up front, i was just saying to my husband yesterday, that when they were doing the whole 1975 thing

the assembly hall in pittsburgh was being built and i was there on site, now you know that was in the planning for years, and there were two brand new kingdom halls also built in the mid 70's, so the society KNEW there was no 1975 thing, but used it to fear monger an manipulate.

as they continue to do

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Examining Genesis . Would your JW's ?

by Phizzy in

i was talking to a jw a short time ago and it emerged in conversation that he believed in the literal truth of the bible's first book, genesis.. no great surprise there, but he said something pertinent, he said, "if you don't, then the whole of our belief falls apart".. i was wondering if this may be of use to those who are endeavouring to "wake up" jw family or friends.

a proper examination of genesis could be encouraged in a gentle way, raising questions the j.w's must answer, ( you may have to insist they answer them, not shove them aside as they love to do ), and eventually they will have to get to the point, if they are at all honest, that genesis is simply not literal truth.. then, their whole body of belief is undermined.. simples !.

well, the idea is, the execution may be impossible, but i just thought the idea may be helpful ?.

sowhatnow

lol, see my question, 'why didnt god just do this?', for a further discussion on what most people think of that account.

id say your correct, however, the book of job was written first from what i recall reading, its the oldest book found, so who knows.

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Is shunning an expression of love or just a place for the shunner to hide?

by cha ching in

to three people in my family, disfellowshipping / shunning is just a tool the wtbs uses to hide what really happened.... they don't want people to 'see behind the curtain.'.

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sowhatnow

shunning apostates was done only by ancient israeltes in response to those who did not follow that law. right? am i wrong? its early.

it has nothing to do with any other subject let alone , todays world.

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No comment on tight dresses from TM3. Gotta keep those WTB MS motivated!

by aintenoughwiskey in

jw
friends

this is sexist, sisters can strut around in painted on dresses.

i recall one elders wife (she looked fantastic by the way) with a very tight form fitting dress that would have showed a birth mark, let alone a panty line.

none was revealed!