wow, thats a good thing, the god I believe in isnt a pious unforgiving materialistic ass who expects people to leap through ancient hoops live a life of denial and shun their fellow man over ancient misinterpreted text.
sowhatnow
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One of my new favorite quotes
by freemindfade in"you deserve the god you worship"-joseph campbell
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May tv.jw.org program
by zophar inthe may broadcast on tv.jw.org.
we need money!.
http://tv.jw.org/#video/vodstudio/pub-jwb_201505_1_video.
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i love his exaggerated gestures, so comical, makes me want to puke. he should be a cartoon with those creepy facial expressions too.
oh and everything is historic, lol. i always hated that music.
ok so they are back to criticizing employment.
the governing body mentioned before a scripture prov 3 9. now trying to explain their interpretation of first fruits valuable things. all the produce, uh, produce, dude ,lol nothing more, OMG it was ONLY FOR ISRAELITE'S!!!!
exodus 23 19 'best of the first ripe fruits of the ground', again food!!!
now is this a type or anti type ? or turning it into an allegory make up stuff much.
how is honor [rev 4 11] related to valuable things? lol, a huge twist of scripture using greek root words.
yes at time 4 58[?] to 6.00 is where he says 'finances].
where in he bible does it say we need to sacrifice our time and money and family and jobs, for Gods favor?
no where! 70 hours per month? for a pioneer? they have no life and no knowlege. they must be low on hours too
again the law to Moses is mentioned. were NOT under that LAW! we do not HAVE to do these things.
oh and at 8 minuets do you have 'construction skills', so they can build kingdom halls, lol wow jehov is 'magnified' by these skills and energy. oh really. [so all others are dead weight poo poo].
9.00 back to financial support he claims "for over 130 years this organization has never solicited for funds,
and it certainly isn't going to start now", lmao..... he says...
we dont send out monthly statements to each of jw, specifying a dollar amount that should be submitted to finance the work worldwide. ... then he goes on with 'we dont know who gives what'. any donations are not misappropriated he uses matt 24 45 -47 'the governing body the faithful slave and the discrete slave wisely managing'
...oh I cant finish! lol start at 8 if you want to hear the money talk...
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CANADA: Jehovah's Witnesses appoint female 2015 District Convention Co-ordinator ???
by jwleaks inall along the watch tower: annual convention returns next month.
cornwall seaway news.
may 04, 2015. cornwall, ontario - it's nearly time for the annual pilgrimage to cornwall for thousands of jehovah's witnesses.. the faithful will start converging in cornwall on june 12 for the first of three watch tower conventions being held at the cornwall civic complex in the ed lumley arena.. altogether more than 7,500 delegates will be attending the three conventions, pumping in excess of $3.5 million dollars in economic benefits into the community, the city said monday.
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why did man go from living 900 years to 90?
by sowhatnow ini cant recall the scripture, where it says than only a few men will he live to be 80 years or so, can anyone recall that?.
so then im wondering, if it is a fact that men lived long years 900 in some cases, for what reason would god limit our lifespan if our time is so short compared to his?.
how on earth does man go from living 8 and 9 hundred years down to 80 to 100 ?.
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if the rate of aging was increased from 900 to 80 or 90 when the bible books were still being written, then by now we all should be extinct. lol.
but as history shows, many ancient societies, lived very short lives, due to disease death from pregnancy and giving birth, being hunted by animals, and hardships finding food, and shelter.
most age expectancy to 35 to 50 at the highest. now we are living longer again.
please , gods_ kingdom, where does the bible tell us when the 100 yr reign begins, and ends,
and where does it say that only resurrected ones will be in it? does the bible say people live 'through' the great war of God the almighty? people always will live through tribulation. [ since Armageddon is not an event, it is a place, so thats like saying were going to live through canada, lol.]
what I understand is that only [ the apostles] 12 will rule with him to judge the twelve tribes of Israel.
Matthew 19
28 Jesus said to them, “Truly I tell you, at the renewal of all things, when the Son of Man is seated on the throne of his glory, you who have followed me will also sit on twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
revelation 20 vs says those who were given the authority to judge....[ there is no number of thrones mentioned here yet the 12 thrones are assumed, since it is stated that those who sit on them are judges].
4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection. 6 Blessed and holy are those who share in the first resurrection. The second death has no power over them, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with him for a thousand yearssee from what i understand, the bible tells us that Jesus was only a savior and mediator for the Israelites. jesus said go continually to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. not anyone else. [no where does the bible tell us that jesus ended the law code]. we are not then followers of the mosaic law. so we are not under it.
Thank the Lord, lol
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Yesterday's Watchtower, Bible Comments
by freemindfade inthe whole meeting for me was nauseating yesterday... the talk was on "science".. nuff said... then the watchtower, they are just spinning in circles patting themselves on the back lately it seems, but this is one thing that really stuck out to me.. i heard the comment multiple times about how the 2013 version of nwt made things "easier to understand" "simpler" and so on.
this has been one of my main beefs with yhwh and his book.
this is supposedly the tool for mankind to all live or die based on whether or not they:.
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my mom says to me, when i tell her the bible has been changed, "oh come on, you mean to tell me that God cant preserve his word? yor nuts God made sure his word was preserved" shes being sarcastic yet dumb.
what ill tell her next time she says that is 'well apparently not since over the centuries its been 'simplified" so much by mankind because evidently were all too stupid to figure it out on our own.lol
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is the current WT teaching that all prior to jesus death will not go to heaven?
by sowhatnow inif so would that not make matthew ch 17 vs 3 [transfiguration] a bit confusing to explain?
i mean, where did they come from?
the grave?
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hebrews 11...maybe not, my mother would say 'just because they were 'looking' for a heavenly kingdom doesn't mean that's what they were going to be given" lol
but vs 13 is interesting, it says they are foreigners ON EARTH.
13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth.
wow, we can run with that one.
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which ones? just these ones! and no partaking mentioned.hmm
by sowhatnow inhere in matthew chapter 19 jesus tells a man the commandments he has to do to gain life... which apparently did not include partaking of his flesh and blood.
so this means that this man could have everlasting life and not partake of the emblems.
they knew not of them.
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here in Matthew chapter 19 Jesus tells a man the commandments he has to do to gain life... which apparently did not include partaking of his flesh and blood. so this means that this man could have everlasting life and not partake of the emblems. they knew not of them.
16 Just then a man came up to Jesus and asked, “Teacher, what good thing must I do to get eternal life?”
17 “Why do you ask me about what is good?” Jesus replied. “There is only One who is good. If you want to enter life, keep the commandments.”
18 “Which ones?” he inquired.
Jesus replied, “‘You shall not murder, you shall not commit adultery, you shall not steal, you shall not give false testimony, 19 honor your father and mother,’[c] and ‘love your neighbor as yourself.’[d]”now surely if there were more, Jesus would have said so right?
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is the current WT teaching that all prior to jesus death will not go to heaven?
by sowhatnow inif so would that not make matthew ch 17 vs 3 [transfiguration] a bit confusing to explain?
i mean, where did they come from?
the grave?
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if so would that not make Matthew ch 17 vs 3 [transfiguration] a bit confusing to explain? I mean, where did they come from? the grave?
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OMG once and for all, whats this idea of a three fold prophesy??
by sowhatnow inwell it happened again, i got annoyed at my mom telling me all about the co visit , and i couldn't help myself, i said' oh god mom its like the pope is visiting, all that info can be told with the regular elders you don't need 'special' people .. subjects ensue,.
she says 'your misled, your so wrong, no one else on the planet has the beliefs that we do, we are the only ones with the truth, i dont follow men, bla bla.. , 40 minuets... , misquotes all over the place, isaiah this and that, yada yada ' j"vah has to have an earthy organization to give us the proper food, bla bla.
i say ' no jesus is gods mediator, we don't need men and were told not to listen to men for they are imperfect.
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oh yea, I was asking her if she remembers just studying her watchtower lessons with the type anti type nonsense. she says to me, oh your just reading those to find fault. lol so no matter what we loose right?
no longer can i 'read those' and be found righteous , lol then of course she defaults to the old " you are just looking for a reason to not go out door to door, you never liked it , you never liked meetings, bla bla.
yea thats why i went and gee the holy spirit must have been drunk then to 'lead me' to be baptized, lol. yea the holy spirit was drunk when 'it' let my soon to be x become ministerial servant when I knew what he was really like.
shes still teaching the three prophesy fulfillment bullcrap to her bible study! she has her own teachings,lol
I wont hold my breath waiting for her to find 'the time' to look up scriptures. and kalk ill have to look into that info.
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OMG once and for all, whats this idea of a three fold prophesy??
by sowhatnow inwell it happened again, i got annoyed at my mom telling me all about the co visit , and i couldn't help myself, i said' oh god mom its like the pope is visiting, all that info can be told with the regular elders you don't need 'special' people .. subjects ensue,.
she says 'your misled, your so wrong, no one else on the planet has the beliefs that we do, we are the only ones with the truth, i dont follow men, bla bla.. , 40 minuets... , misquotes all over the place, isaiah this and that, yada yada ' j"vah has to have an earthy organization to give us the proper food, bla bla.
i say ' no jesus is gods mediator, we don't need men and were told not to listen to men for they are imperfect.
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well it happened again, i got annoyed at my mom telling me all about the CO visit , and i couldn't help myself, i said' oh god mom its like the pope is visiting, all that info can be told with the regular elders you don't need 'special' people .
subjects ensue,
she says 'your misled, your so wrong, no one else on the planet has the beliefs that we do, we are the only ones with the truth, I dont follow men, bla bla.
, 40 minuets... , misquotes all over the place, isaiah this and that, yada yada ' j"vah has to have an earthy organization to give us the proper food, bla bla. i say ' no jesus is Gods mediator, we don't need men and were told not to listen to men for they are imperfect.'
and then the big one she ends with....
"the bibles prophesies have a three fold fulfillment." so she says. then she says 'im not arguing with you anymore my heat breaks for you.' and she says goodbye. [meanwhile ill be there at her house painting tomorrow]
someone tell me what scriptures any JW has ever used to support that?
i told her I want the scriptures to back it up. well you know, Ive said that half a dozen times with no results.
i want to be ready for that is she brings it up.