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  Witness Punk and Metal Band Names

  by Luther bertrand in

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  here is what i would name my band(s) let see if you can list some funny ones as well.

  here is my list:.

  local needs.

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  Dying Souls
  Ill logic
  Caleb’s Screamers
  Flat Out Liars
  Systems No End
  Korners Preachers
  
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  The immorality of C Russell and J Rutherford founding members of the Watchtower Organization

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  something that gets little attention or not enough is the what kind of social behavioral people were the ones who started the watchtower corporation ?

  c t russell was someone who got divorced from it would appear a lack of love and attention to his wife and the supposed attention he gave to a younger woman who had lived at his home together with his wife .. j rutherford built a lavish home in sunny and warm san diego and lived with his mistress and personal assistant, separated from his wife.

  apparently hoarding and drinking alcohol as well when it was illegal by law to do so.. would either of these men qualify to be even elders in today's standards ?

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  yea, my mom would say, 'prove it, thats propaganda and lies.'
  

  that's what she says about everything that isn't printed in a watchtower.

  funny how they can gloss over those faults,

  but its not ok for decent good people to run their own lives and worship in peace.
  
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  A philosophical question .... what does the word God mean to you personally ?

  by Finkelstein in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to myself it means to seek knowledge and understanding of are selves and the world in which we live.. unfortunately history has shown whenever one tries to connect to god and of his knowledge through men who say they themselves are connected to god through spiritual wifi ie.

  gb members of the jehovah's witnesses for example, one usually ends up finding a accumulation of only man's acquired knowledge.

  over thousands of years of trying to connect to a god(s) for help and answers, mankind has eventually relinquished himself to seeking answers through scientific investigative acquired knowledge of the world in which we live in.

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  when i hear the word god , my anxiety goes haywire. it means stress, anger, fear, confusion and guilt.

  in any event, its a negative at this time.
  
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  Youths who leave

  by Tornintwo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  having 2 teenagers myself the plight of young people leaving the organisation is close to my heart, shunning of young ones and destruction of families is what triggered my awakening.. ive just heard about a friend of my daughters who is df'd and being shunned by his family, apparently he is part of a campaign to take the shunning issue to the echr, i'm trying to find out more but does anyone else know about this?.

  another friend of hers is also being shunned, he's is being allowed to stay at home for now because he can't afford to leave but he isn't allowed to speak to his sister at all and is limited to short greetings with his parents, after which he has to stay in his room.

  poor boy has tried to commit suicide.

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  the very idea of young people being treated this way by their parents and family members is appalling. a loving god would never approve of that behavior. there are scriptures that support being loving to people even your enemies. we have to save the children, before its too late. somehow these kids need to know there is someone there for them to talk to.

  WT. takes one line of a scripture and twists it, and use it to make people want to leave, It illogical to me.

  they knew how the pharisees in Jesus day expected too much of the people, and yet THEY do it!
  

  this shows the mental disconnect that the org has taught so many people.
  

  yes, there will be no natural affection alright. there cant be natural affection from people in cults.
  

  I have experienced as an adult, and as a youth, being avoided simply for not being regular at meetings.

  Im sure my mom would tell anyone who asked where i was, that i was being 'rebellious' and lazy.

  she likes to pull the lazy card on everyone. your 'lazy' if you dont go door to door or to meetings, lol

  wow. kids are labeled as 'not a spiritual person' if they aren't 100 percent at meetings in door to door or having their hands up all the time or giving talks. they are judged before they even know whats going on. peoples bible studies are also under suspicion, and avoided and not invited anyplace, because you know they are 'worldly' you cant win. your never good enough.
  
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  What do you think of the phrase " You don't have all the facts, and I am not in a position to tell you what I know"?

  by KateWild in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what do you think of the phrase " you don't have all the facts, and i am not in a position to tell you what i know"?.

  has this phrase ever been used with you?

  i have my own opinions at present but i don't want to express them yet as they are subject to change.. kate xx.

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  hmm might be something i can use on my mom next time she drags me into a debate, lol
  
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  Does Believing in God Make You Dumb?

  by Brokeback Watchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzqaeusdmtk.

  http://jdc.jefferson.edu/jmbcimfp/5/.

  abstract.

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  DJS; you say,
  [Anyone who allows someone else to do their thinking and has given up all analytical rigor, swallowing the tepid conformationally biased nonsense spewed by their leaders and relying on their feelings and beliefs for many years as do so many very religious people, is not using a vital muscle - their brain. It isn't any different than a couch potato. Unused muscles atrophy.]
  
  now now, your on here with the rest of us ...
  
  david and djs is your J w showing? lol
  
  Now you cant deny the crafty ability of the wt orgs evil salesmen, give then part credit for the grand scheme they have going on. masters of deception. and so who else are masters of deception? lots of groups, from govt to corporations to science.
  that my dear takes an amount of skill, good or bad.
  
  IMO, people who are religious, might have one of two purposes , to be viewed as good, and worthy of ‘gifts’ from the lord. or to view themselves and better than thou. or 'special' lol.
  depends on he upbringing.
  
  the short answer is no.
  because if you take time studying a religious belief system, and it occupies all of your time,
  you have no other space left in the day , or the brain for other more beneficial subjects.
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  New Light: Clap when it is given a Reinstatement ad

  by TheTruthBR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  a new letter was posted in jw.org to the elders who are under the brazilian branch:.

  january 25, 2016to all bodies of eldersref .

  : clap when given a readmission addear brothers:we would like to inform you about a recent adjustment.

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  searcher per your post ..
  

  3 days ago

  km 2/00 p. 7 Question Box

  Is it appropriate to applaud when a reinstatement is announced?

  In his loving-kindness, Jehovah God has provided a Scriptural way for repentant wrongdoers to regain his favor and achieve reinstatement in the Christian congregation. (Ps. 51:12, 17)

  Im wondering what vs 17 is supposed to mean..... to me its sickening.
  
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  Original Sin / Salvation without a literal Adam and Eve?

  by Coded Logic in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  something i've never understood is if adam and eve are just metaphorical where did "original sin" come from.

  and, if there was no original sin, what is the value of jesus sacrifice?.

  i know a lot of christians believe in evolution but i've never understood how such a belief is structured.

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  I have come to believe that the word sin simply was to mean 'not following the law of Israel'.
  

  anyone who did not follow it was a 'sinner', that being everyone 'else', [all the 'dogs on the outside']
  

  I don't think the word sin, or heaven, or paradise, or perfection, or even forever, were words that mean what we think they are supposed to mean.

  mean? meant?
  
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  whats so bad about believing people go to heaven?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it occurred to me today, that so often, my mother will make the comment that .

  "those false religions teach that everyone is going to heaven when they die, oh sure, .

  all you have to do is be a good person, and off you go to heaven.

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  natenate, I know that, my point was. how oddly 'offended' some JWs act when the idea is presented., like its some absolutely preposterous idea, even though there are plenty of scriptures to support that idea, as much as they do another idea.
  

  I find it funny, what the hell difference does it make as long as it makes someone happy.lol
  
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  whats so bad about believing people go to heaven?

  by sowhatnow in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it occurred to me today, that so often, my mother will make the comment that .

  "those false religions teach that everyone is going to heaven when they die, oh sure, .

  all you have to do is be a good person, and off you go to heaven.

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  It occurred to me today, that so often, my mother will make the comment that
  

  "those false religions teach that everyone is going to heaven when they die, oh sure,
  

  all you have to do is be a good person, and off you go to heaven. and that's a lie'

  [ lol, wow, its so bad being 'just a good person' ]
  

  then she tries to quote a scripture, like, the earth was not made for nothing ,

  and, it was made to be inhabited by righteous people forever. ect ect
  

  her biggest fear is that if her religion is not true, she has no chance to live on a paradise earth. well, granted, that is not a pleasant thought.
  

  But when I thought about it the idea, whats so bad about that belief of going to heaven, that JWs condemn it so?

  I mean wouldn't the average person prefer to believe everyone goes there, and not just 144000 'special' people?
  

  After all, that's where god is supposed to live, and since we are only human, we have no idea how good heaven can be., do we? how dare us say we want to live on earth forever, if paradise is in heaven and its a blessing to go there? lol.

  so 2 Corinthians 12 vs 2 says this..

  .I know a man in Christ who fourteen years ago-- whether in the body I do not know, or out of the body I do not know, God knows-- such a man was caught up to the third heaven.

  and vs 4 says this
  

  'was caught up into Paradise and heard inexpressible words, which a man is not permitted to speak.'

  now most people will do anything not to die, so the idea of heaven must not be that great, lol
  

  so, what would you conclude....