Posts by sowhatnow

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The real reason Chelmsford hasn't been stopped

by Saltheart Foamfollower in

i haven't seen this mentioned yet.

last year in the uk, shortly after the money grab that everyone had, we had a video and letter (both probably still available from atlantis) appealing for money for the new bethel and slips were handed out etc.

this means that most uk congregations are sending a regular donation specifically for the chelmsford build.

sowhatnow

hmm ,

yea, what are they preparing for? storing up treasures on earth are they? organic fruit trees water supply, housing, underground storage, for probably supplies, live in a paradise..... putting hopes in themselves to save them?

who now is going to live there? who are the 'lucky' [?] ones who get to stay there? will all 8 million jws have a compound to 'hide' on,lol or is this for the 144,000? doesnt the bible say no one can hide, and god will save the righteous ones? so yea whats the real secret.

why dont someone put a bug in the ear of Alex Jones, maybe he can investigate....lol

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The Elders of the congregations make for the worst possible "shepards".

by Dunedain in

the main goal of a shepard, is to keep the flock as safe as possible.

the loss of just a single sheep, could be devastating to a flock, and a shepards financial well being.

every sheep is valuable, from a monetary stanpoint, and future strength of the flock.

sowhatnow

just my opinion here, but

what the society expects men to do, is something by nature men are not equipped for. this is not an insult, its just a simple observation.

women by far are more the emotionaly caretaker support syetem and like to talk, figure things out and are social by nature. which is why when men dont 'talk', women go nuts assuming things,lol

men, not so much, men are more logical, and have a single purpose in mind and would prefer not to multi task. men are excelent in finding a solution to a single problem, like, say, when they see that the numbers are short on the days register totals, they go after the mistake. one project, done. all is well. and move on to the next project.

so a man can be assigned to take care of one thing and do it well, not take care of a whole sh@# load of assignments with unpredicatable outcomes because there are 20 or 30 different people[ half of them female and children] involved. and then do it with two or three other guys who have a different viewpoint but cant openly express it for fear of being scolded by the higher ups.

I have always been sympathetic to elders, the WT steals thier time, and identity and thier peace of mind. turns them into machines, they have to ignore thier emotions and conscience and logic to get the 'job' done.

they got the wrong sex assigned to a job thats probably got the wrong title, lol

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I was disfellowshipped because of Satan

by elbib in

during co visit, i took him for a bible study i was conducting.

during the session, the householder said he believed satan was not a person, but personification of evil within us.

i left co to handle householder’s doubt.

sowhatnow

yea, i can see why there was no comment, from the C.O. lol, but apparently they were not trained enough for that very puropse of disputing what can be said is 'logic'

and hey thanks for posting that list of scriptures, a morning bible lesson, lol.

I so plan to use those if i must, my mom thinks I m crazy to not belive in satan. well, I told her, if she thinks satan has got me, then why all the years when jeho'no was supposed to be watching my back, he failed me? that means he lets satan win? he let me be misled by providing no diversion ,[ which for an almighty god should have been pretty easy] dispite my prayers to be helped?

then she changes the subject.... lol

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What Are the Top JW Issues That Just Burn Your Buns the Most?

by Wild_Thing in

jw
friends

which ones make you the maddest?

covering up of abuse, shunning, failed end of world predictions?.

my list is long and heavy, but the top 3 that set me off the most are:.

sowhatnow

double talk, hypocrisy. in denial.

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

sowhatnow

excellent discussion,

but feel bad for bursting their bubble. they must go home so deflated and anxious.

your the the un -witness lol ' saving people from the WT mind prison , one at at a time! '

you need a cape and a side kick, lol

21

Whats the one thing

by MrTheocratic in

jw's are constantly trying to prove they have the truth.

they always point to matthew 24:14 and say "who is accomplishing this work today?

this proves we have the truth and gods backing".. for those of us in this community looking from the other side what is one thing that proves to you that this organization does not have gods backing?

sowhatnow

my moms way of defending it is to say that jehov is and organized god and needs an organization ,lol

shes so stuck on that word organized. as if every other religion isnt organized. yet she cant back it up with any scriptures, shes 73 yrs old,and cant look up a scripture......?

then yes, 'they're the only ones doing the preaching work'

um no mom, other religions do it in another way but more successfully apparently...

im out finally after decades of being treated like a bother, because i see idol worship in the first degree, im more forgiving than the god of the bible, and my family was basically pushed out.

organizational idol worship.... they are guilty of.

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"It's the demons..."

by pale.emperor in

one thing that really frustrates me inside is how quite a few jw's (especially my family) actually believe that demons like to inhabit second hand vases, or clothes etc.

my sister and mother are so bad with this that they wont even talk about it - because even talking about it "brings demons into your home".

so any attempt to show them that it's unscriptural is shut off with, sometimes them literally going "lalalalalalala im not listening".. i used to believe it myself (why wouldn't i?, i was told by my mother and father it was fact).. what i'd like to point out to anyone that would let me debunk it is this:.

sowhatnow

I think thats a belief specific to individuals, and how they see it. My mom, will not knowingly accept items from someone if shes aware that they are into the occult, or demonic sort of stuff. for example, if perhaps one of my relatives was a admitted witch, and wanted to give her some clothing, she wont take it, lol.

because she doesn't want to bring demons 'in' her home, lol

Yet shes fine with shopping for used stuff, and buying off the web, we did it most of our lives, she rarely buys anything new, she cant afford to.

but my mom blames satan for everything bad, and gives god credit for everything good, yet she says satan 'blesses his own' to explain people who have wealth good jobs and nice homes, lol [ cant be because they are a success in themselves,lol] yea so springs pop out of my head a lot when I talk to her, lol

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UFO's might be real.and what does it mean if they are?

by atomant in

for some reason this subject has not received much attention over the years which surprises me.theres many conspiracy theories floating around on the internet and lve done my fair share of due diligence on the matter.the school is still out on this one.l find it very hard to believe humans are the only intelligent beings out there.has anyone on this forum ever seen a ufo or experienced a close encounter?

sowhatnow

if were here, there are others....

if the universe is moving away from itself, as when a bomb explodes, then if we were visited by someone, it was probably accidental, and chances are we will never see them again. we don't know if there are beings who were on planets before earth formed, and those may be millions of years ahead of us in technology. if there are any exploration equipment like ours, or manned ships, they might be truly lost in space. lol

I find it quite fascinating that mankind has seen what it has so far.

ancient aliens was such a fun show to watch, gives us lots to think about,lol

23

Generation Nonsense in today's WT

by Slidin Fast in

abraham was part of the 9th generation as a descendent of shem.

yet, their lives overlapped by 150 years.

yep, they were of the same generation!

sowhatnow

i googled how long is a generation just out of curiosity, because i can recall that it was once accepted that a generation was 20 years so here we have this short article...... [and im just as confused,lol] but, Jesus wasn't giving a future prophesy,he was speaking about then, THIS generation. current. the one he himself was part of or was immediately following his. but im going to say the current one he was part of .

http://isogg.org/wiki/How_long_is_a_generation%3F_Science_provides_an_answer

but really, what is the purpose of a bunch of stupid articles about generations and the different 'classes' of chosen ones, and times and end of the world ect ect got to do with being a good christian and helping your fellow man.

they are desperate for something to write about. lol

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Thoughts

by thinker11 in

as much as i want to believe in the bible and wish for a god that is watching over us and love us; i find it difficult to comprehend that a loving god will erase mankind with fireballs, earthquakes, and kill childrens, mothers, and fathers who refused to believe in the bible.

and i can’t help but to take their side in all these.

i mean: what has god really done to show that he is love and that he exists and is watching how we act.

sowhatnow

exactly. I once told my mom, I must be better than God, because id never do the things he did.

one, i could not test my first born children with trees, for no real reason, then tell them they will die if they dont 'listen'.

two, let satan get away with all this.

three, let thier offspring suffer due to thier mistake.

four, sit by and watch evil people torture each other.

five, make imperfect people feel miserable for not being able to follow impossible requirements.

i for one would not want to worship a god like that.

If god is love, then he is quite pissed at man for misrepresenting him,lol

Im just glad i know that the whole story, the way most people interpret it, isnt true.

at least I know I was right all along about something.