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Posts by kairos
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29Help - I'm going to be conducting the watchtower study
by Saltheart Foamfollower init looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
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Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey
by JW_Rogue ini watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.
even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".
it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!
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kairos
I think trying to show our still-in JWs this video series is very important.
Watching the videos in private with time to think about the content is a much better environment than sitting amongst clapping JWs that think this is the best thing ever.
It could be the difference between waking up or not.
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Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?
by OnTheWayOut ini don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
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kairos
I think the WTS will claim the "attack of the Assyrian" when they get ousted from Russia..
Or was it the "King of the North"? "Gog"?..."Demon Princes"?
I can't keep up!
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"Happy" bethel music dance video....and what bethel is REALLY like!!
by Witness 007 ini think the "happy" dance bethel video is the best thing to come out of bethel in 100 years.
sure many were told off for this.
i cant believe so many were convinced to go alittle "worldly.
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The bigger picture
by Freeandclear ini've been awake now for a good while.
about a year.
in that year i've done a lot of soul searching and thinking about god and religion etc.... as i'm sure most all of us have who've left this cult.
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kairos
Coming up on three years away from the JWs for me.
No regrets in that department.We all wonder what's next.
Certainly, the WT portrayal of 'paradise' is NOT attractive.
Can you even imagine living in the endless loop of 'listening, obeying and being blessed?'It would become everlasting boredom.
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I remember back about 25 years ago, I was trying to witness to my own father. I remember what he said to me.
"I'd rather just grow old and die".
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So yes, make your own way in life, do your best.
If there is "something", I suppose it will be nothing as we expected.
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Until then, "nobody gets out of here alive"...
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After 15-17 years JW daughter coming by for a visit today.
by James Mixon inis something going on in jw land i don't know about.
she and her new husband and my two.
grand daughters, one i have never seen.
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kairos
Happy for you.
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1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)
by FusionTheism inquote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.
"understanding the illustration of the talents".
"when the master rewards the slaves.".
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kairos
I really hope the corrupt leaders, all of them, go to prison for their crimes against humanity.
Could happen...
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How Long Does This Religion Have Left?
by pale.emperor inthe generation that will be no means pass away have passed away.. the 144,000 were sealed up in 1935, oh, no wait, we got that wrong, we still have some.. russel is the faithful and wise servant... oh, no he wasn't it was me, rutherford... no, actually, we got that wrong it's knorr... erm, no we mean the governing body.. shunning is pagan, true christians would never do that (1946)... oh, actually, we should do that too.. the revelation book has been re-written.. the un is the satan's visible organisation.. wtbs signs up for fellowship with the un in 1991.. exposed in the guardian newspaper so ends it's fellowship in 2001.. the greatest man book is now obsolete and replaced with another jesus book.. the mags are reduced in pages.. encouraged to use tablets instead of actual books to save paper (money).
halls being sold off.. congregations sharing halls.. society owned buildings being sold off.. video pertitioning for money only last year to fund a new building.. bethelites reduced.. missionaries sent back home.. young members leaving.. long time members discovering the history and leaving.. how long do you think this religion has left?
i cant see it being here in another 100 years.
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kairos
I see them dropping the religious part altogether and just focusing on the real estate and financial investments.
Actually close all the KHs and branches.So sad.
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Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?
by OnTheWayOut ini don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
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kairos
The bunker videos from RC 2016 will have them primed and ready...
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Jws are in the matrix but reversed, sort of.
by Crazyguy ini thought of this lastnight in light of these new assembly videos.
we have all seen posts about the comparison with the movie matrix but i think it's in reverse, here's what i mean.
the jw is in the matrix and yes are the batteries for the machine but instead of thier minds being all fun and happy and life being normal they are the ones being chased by the machines living in zion and thinking thier going to die at any moment.
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kairos
And the judicial committees made up of agents...