I think the down turn is already obvious, to outsiders.
Attendance, baptisms donations and overall growth is down.
When/if they admit this, is another story altogether.
When the bottom falls out, be ready to support the discarded.
it's become clear that very few from outside the religion are joining anymore.
if only the kids of the people that are already in are the one replacing the members as they die off and 50% let's say of the kids leave then how long can they realistically last before the downturn becomes obvious?.
I think the down turn is already obvious, to outsiders.
Attendance, baptisms donations and overall growth is down.
When/if they admit this, is another story altogether.
When the bottom falls out, be ready to support the discarded.
so i sometimes go back and look at jw fairtales videos.
he such a good story teller and his video are heartfelt.. anyways i saw a hidden image at the 37:04 point.
does anyone know what book this is from?.
I think some of the images are form the older, gold color, "My Book of Bible Stories".
great news!.
we are free!.
as of the 9th of june, me and my dear wife mrs. eden handed over our letters of disassociation at bethel in portugal, thus making official our departure from the jehovah's witnesses.
As painful as this may be, you won't regret the decision.
hello all, things for the most part have been somewhat better for me because my parents haven't talked about baptism or anything recently.
i got a scholarship to go to art camp for a few weeks which has been fun (since its free, my parents didn't refuse) but it has also been very nervewracking for me.
i haven't been around any non jws for more than a year and its like being in a different world, a world where people are actually real and genuine and not mindless drones.
Pretend you know nothing of the JWs. You'll make new friends and move on with life.
Truth.
read the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
Maybe the GB will send Stephen Lett and a JW broadcast camera crew over to sit down with Putin over this...
Think of the amazing witness it would give <hurl>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znmk2viuqba.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/simulation_hypothesis.
consequences of living in a simulation[edit]some scholars speculate that the creators of our hypothetical simulation may have limited computing power; if so, after a certain point, the creators would have to deploy some sort of strategy to prevent simulations from themselves indefinitely creating high-fidelity simulations in unbounded regress.
If they had an indistinguishable from reality HD/VR of the "SIMS" or a fantasy island/holodeck simulator, how would you know if you were still playing the game or not?
it looks like i'm going to have to take the watchtower study for a while so i thought i'd seek help.. i wont be outing myself or stating anything too controversial, but so far i have come up with the following tactics : 1) ask questions which will get people thinking even if it is about something insignificant - developing a questioning mind is the key to discovering ttat as far as i am concerned.
2) highlight any extreme points so that some might realise they are extreme.
3) highlight any good points - helping others in need for example - just because it is the right thing to do.. if anyone has any general comments which could help, please post them here.
Update?
i watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.
even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".
it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!
I think trying to show our still-in JWs this video series is very important.
Watching the videos in private with time to think about the content is a much better environment than sitting amongst clapping JWs that think this is the best thing ever.
It could be the difference between waking up or not.
i don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
I think the WTS will claim the "attack of the Assyrian" when they get ousted from Russia..
Or was it the "King of the North"? "Gog"?...
"Demon Princes"?
I can't keep up!
i think the "happy" dance bethel video is the best thing to come out of bethel in 100 years.
sure many were told off for this.
i cant believe so many were convinced to go alittle "worldly.