The bunker videos make so much more sense, now.
It's the GB in the bunker, not everyday JWs.
It's the GB and WTBTS who the courts are going after.
Persecution my ass! They just got caught, that's all.
Posts by kairos
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221Judge sanctions WTS - $4k per day penalty for not producing sex abuse documents
by Simon injudge sanctions jehovah's witnesses.
imposes $4000-a-day penalty for not producing documents in sex-abuse case.
by dorian hargrove, june 24, 2016. a san diego superior court judge has ordered the church of jehovah's witnesses, also known as the watchtower bible and tract society of pennsylvania, to pay $4000 a day for every day that it fails to produce documents requested in a civil lawsuit brought by former parishioner, osbaldo padron, who claims a church elder sexually abused him when he was seven years old.. in a june 23 ruling, expected to be made final today, judge richard strauss admonished the church for willfully ignoring a court order to produce all documents associated with a 1997 body of elders letter that church leaders sent to parishes around the world in a quest to learn about sexual abuse of children by church leaders.. over the course of the past year, the watchtower society and its lawyers have fought hard to keep the letter confidential, claiming that turning over the documents would infringe on the privacy of those mentioned in the letter that were not associated with the case.. in march 2015, the church turned over a heavily redacted version of the letter.
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When the dam wall busts.
by stuckinarut2 insome (especially witnesses) may wonder what brings us to places like this?.
why is it that we have chosen to step away from the society that we once viewed as "the truth", despite the consequences for doing so?.
well for any visitors to this site, or any other "apostate" sites, the answer is simple really:.
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kairos
The first leak in my dam was elders turning a blind eye to local criminal activity within my congregation.
I pressed the issue. With all of the elders and two COs.
They did nothing. I cornered an elder, my brother in law, and he told me, and I quote: "as a body of elders, we have decided to ignore this"...
We were alone in the car while in service when this conversation happened, waiting for the other two to return from their call.It took everything I had to contain myself. I just wanted to be taken home at that very instant.
I buried it for just a little while. Quit the meetings for a few months.
I attended the meeting where the new Silver bible was released. I couldn't last the entire meeting. I stood in the back until it was over.That was the last time I ever attended a meeting of JWs.
Only after then did I investigate TTATT.
I was already done, and what I would soon learn only sealed it for me.
There will never be any 'returning to jehovah'.
I've even gone so far as to accept, even if they are right, I want nothing to do with them.---
Later I would discover the elders were never my friends and my brother in law would be my betrayer.
By this all will know that YOU are my disciples, if YOU have love among yourselves
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I Just had a CLOSE ENCOUNTER of the Dub kind
by TerryWalstrom ini just frightened a jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits!.
i just frightened a sweet jehovah’s witness lady half out of her wits.... .
she took off like a sprinter at the sound of a starter pistol!.
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kairos
I wish I could get wife wife to read this. I'll try.
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Printing presses, bye... bye...
by sp74bb inbye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
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kairos
How about full page ORG sponsored ads for their real estate offerings?
Wouldn't that be a kick? Finding out your local Kingdom hall is on the market in the back of the Awake!
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Printing presses, bye... bye...
by sp74bb inbye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
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kairos
It's just a matter of time now before the Watchtower and Awake magazines start having advertisements...
Look closely, the JWdotORG site has been advertised for years.
In the publications, meeting parts, video and on the Kingdom Hall on the way in and out.
Only JWs see the advertising, which is exactly what they want.That's where they are encouraged to give of their valuable things.
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Mmmm hmmmm
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Printing presses, bye... bye...
by sp74bb inbye... bye.... no more new printing presses for jw.org... the growth is so tremendous (irony...).. all printing work in europe will be arrange in the next month only in selters (germany), but no renovation or upgrading in printing presses is expected... it will be a full outsourcing :).
a worldly company axel s******* will be used.
this company is known to be printing bild newspaper... the interesting part of it is the logistics will be as well outsourced.
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kairos
They already tricked the r&f into buying tablet devices and have been demonstrating and encouraging this for years.
Any old timers that resist can man a cart!
Let's face it, they are dying off and the younger faithful seem to thrive on tablet warfare... so burn on the publishers, once more as the WTS cashes in, AGAIN.
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Need advice
by Drwho ini'm a middle aged man.
i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .
she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .
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kairos
Sorry to hear of your situation. Best to part ways and save yourself from the misery that is to surely follow.
These people cannot be reasoned with and I'm finding firsthand, they mentally 'shut down' if you require them to think.
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kairos
This is a subject that has caught my eye.
Let me pose a few questions:
1. what is the formula for determining the circumference of the earth?
( how much does the earth curve per mile? )2. have you examined the thought behind this concept?
( spent more than 30 minutes? )3. why do you believe the earth is round and can you prove it?
4. Do you know about US Govt Operation 'High Jump' led by US Admiral Byrd and the closure of Antarctica by international treaty for nearly 60 years.
( you can't go there and do whatever you want. Nobody can )5. have you made any personal observations of your own?
( independent, recorded, repeatable data you gathered to make your claim )thanks
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Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?
by slimboyfat insometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.
i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.
a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.
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kairos
I have lived in only two communities.
Santa Cruz, Ca and Napa, Ca.
Both have very exclusive and wealthy neighborhoods with multi-million dollar homes.
This claiming of property, judging the inhabitants, and general bad thoughts about the 'worldly' was ALWAYS HAPPENING within the service groups. I have always found it disgusting and wrong. Sadly, I may have been caught up in it myself...
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It's all because of the term "worldly".
Among the worst slurs against humanity.Dehumanizes the majority of the population.
The JWs feel no pity. That is why they constantly pray for 'god' to destroy everyone. 'Let your kingdom come'.They want the slaughter... and your house, too
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Should I just tell my parents
by BlackWolf inlately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!
i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.
if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.
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kairos
two words:
Bus Ticket