When an elder came to "encourage me" in my home, he asked me that same question, almost word for word.
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I told him that I would not be interegated by him.
He was stunned and avoided any further "spiritual conversation".
a little experience that happened very recently:.
another brother, an elder, and i were talking, i was explaining to him and giving him several examples of how a couple of the elders in our congregation were blatantly trying to run their own show, parading themselves around as "representatives" of the body, when the other brothers didnt know what the hell they were talking about.
they are using their "elder powers" to bully and push people around, causing a bit of angst and hurt feelings.
When an elder came to "encourage me" in my home, he asked me that same question, almost word for word.
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I told him that I would not be interegated by him.
He was stunned and avoided any further "spiritual conversation".
lets say jw's were right about paradise.
i'm resurrected,.
a mentally deceased dreaded apostate, you look up and there i'am.. now you shunned me for over 10 -20 years when i was .
If there is a resurrection for those that are killed at Armageddon...
who are we fooling, as long as we humans exist there.
will never be peace even under god's rule.. i think god realize he have created a mess and said screw this .
and have left us on our own.. each day there is another crisis, what's next.... there is no solution to bring harmony among mankind, hell.
I recently canceled TV service.
So much better not hearing the latest news.
gone are the days of getting into discussions about their beliefs.
doing major research to prove a position or watchtower doctrine is a thing of the past.
all they want from you is to surrender and accept everything they say as undeniable truth.. do you agree?.
Don't understand something or have doubts?
Not a problem...
"Wait on Jehovah"
last week, the circuit overseer came to visit my wifes congregation and as usual their patterns change somewhat during this week.
from my perspective, the meetings are held on tuesday and thursday instead of the normal wednesday night during this week and they are more eager to go out in field service.
sunday came and my wife wanted us to attend the meeting.
Incredible.
How do they keep these secrets so well hidden?
it's nice to have you here !
i found that this board was very supportive when i first got on it over 4 years ago .
i still find it supportive !
I have found the topics discussed to be very helpful in solidifying that my decision to leave was the correct one.
i cant figure out how some persons like my husband and son, simply got too 'busy' and gradually stopped going to meetings, and were totally left alone, and yet some persons.
seem to indicate that people were constantly in persuit of them, for a way to disfellowship them.. the ones who fade never get 'disfellowshiped' unless they write a letter formally requesting thier name be of the membership.. just like the jw org tells people who get baptised to do to thier former church,.
i havent been to a meeting in a few months however it is also under a 'remodel' im sure im not missed.
To fade is to disappear from sight and mind of others.
You can't "check in" from time to time.
It's all on the sly...
You have to become forgotten.
As soon as I quit going, I was immediately forgotten, so, it was pretty easy.
it's been quite a while since i lasted posted anything on jwn.
i was in hiding previously, but only because i wanted to avoid the shun gun until i had the opportunity to tell my former congregation what i think about the org./gb.
i last attended a meeting over 2.5 years ago but it wasn't until june--when i earned my bachelor's degree--that i finally had the time to collect my thoughts and get them down on paper...i decided to write my letter in a style i felt would be most appealing to my target audience--jw's still under gb mind control --in the hope that at least a few would read it and actually "think".
Also hoping to read some texts and responses.
i'm off work today and its a monday morning.
a male and female jw just knocked on my door, i opened it, the guy just handed me their latest website promoting tract saying "hi, were just leaving these with people today", and then he made to leave.
i looked at the tract and then looked at him as he was turning to walk away and said to him "ok, thanks, but ummm you could've just left it in my letterbox.".
I remember leaving the tracts/invites on the front porch, under the door matt with a corner showing or the more extreme, sliding it into the closed door crack and into their house!
I think they prefer to just leave a copy rather than have to explain what it is they think they are doing...
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I can't imagine anything has changed since I was last out in service over 18 moths ago.
i've talked with some good friends on the board about this before and we seem to be in agreement : one reason ( among many ) that some disfellowshipped jw's go back and return to the wt organization is because they are full of uneeded guilt or uneeded fear because they haven't educated themselves about how the wt society uses mind control tactics to deceive them into thinking they have " nowhere else to go " .
i understand that some dfed ones may go back to the organization for family and friends- however- it's an exrecise in futility because once you learn the truth about the truth you cannot undo what you heard.
so some may just go back and live a fake jw life to appease family- but just think of how that can damage a person's emotional and mental health playing the fake jw game the rest of their lives !
Thanks for bringing this topic back to the top.
Very useful commentary.