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  Need advice

  by Drwho in

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  2. relationships

  i'm a middle aged man.

  i dated a jw lady for 3 months ., we never had sex, just made out , half naked , well everything except underwear .

  she has been a jw for 40 years ., was married to a jw but he committed adultery 13 years ago so they divorced .

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  kairos

  Sorry to hear of your situation. Best to part ways and save yourself from the misery that is to surely follow.

  These people cannot be reasoned with and I'm finding firsthand, they mentally 'shut down' if you require them to think.
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  Do flat earth beliefs deserve respect?

  by azor in

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  what say you.

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  kairos

  This is a subject that has caught my eye.

  Let me pose a few questions:

  1. what is the formula for determining the circumference of the earth?
  ( how much does the earth curve per mile? )

  2. have you examined the thought behind this concept?
  ( spent more than 30 minutes? )

  3. why do you believe the earth is round and can you prove it?

  4. Do you know about US Govt Operation 'High Jump' led by US Admiral Byrd and the closure of Antarctica by international treaty for nearly 60 years.
  ( you can't go there and do whatever you want. Nobody can )

  5. have you made any personal observations of your own?
  ( independent, recorded, repeatable data you gathered to make your claim )

  thanks
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  Did others experience this on the ministry or among JWs generally?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  sometimes it's hard to know if our own experience of jws was typical and what features were peculiar to our own area or the individual jws we knew personally.

  i was wondering if others experienced this among jws:.

  a few times on the ministry, when we were working wealthy areas with large houses, some brothers and sisters would make the comment that they look forward to taking ownership of one of these big houses after armageddon, when the worldly people have vacated them.

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  kairos

  I have lived in only two communities.
  

  Santa Cruz, Ca and Napa, Ca.

  Both have very exclusive and wealthy neighborhoods with multi-million dollar homes.

  This claiming of property, judging the inhabitants, and general bad thoughts about the 'worldly' was ALWAYS HAPPENING within the service groups. I have always found it disgusting and wrong. Sadly, I may have been caught up in it myself...

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  It's all because of the term "worldly".
  Among the worst slurs against humanity.

  Dehumanizes the majority of the population.
  The JWs feel no pity. That is why they constantly pray for 'god' to destroy everyone. 'Let your kingdom come'.

  They want the slaughter... and your house, too
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  Should I just tell my parents

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

  i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

  if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

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  kairos

  two words:

  Bus Ticket
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  I've been found out!

  by pale.emperor in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well, thats it folks.. my identity on here has been rumbled and reported to the elders.

  someone, somehow, has figured out that im a member of this site and - rather than speak to me - has promptly reported me to the elders.

  i just feel sad for my daughter.

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  kairos

  File charges for invasion of privacy.

  Threaten legal action.

  Report this to the local sheriff and learn how to proceed.

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  Elders are cowards.
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  My life has ended (be careful what you wish for part 2)

  by nevaagain in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  noone and nothing can really prepare you for the burning pain you feel when your spouse leaves you after 8 years of marriage.

  from one day to another, all your dreams, hopes and plans are shattered.. i still have so many questions which will remain unanswered in eternity.. the thread i made a few weeks ago, is part of this story.

  after learning about ttatt my plans involved to wake up my wife as well and exit the truth.

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  kairos

  now it's YOUR cue to leave.

  
  

  ^^ this ^^
  
  
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  Yet another RBC liquidation

  by Darkknight757 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i've posted these before but this one looks more "official".. .

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  kairos

  "Watchtower Estate Sale"
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  Successful Leaver

  by 2True in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i was raised in the cult, a 'golden boy' in jw about 15 years ago.

  regular pioneer, went to pioneer school and then mts.

  my dad is a gilead graduate and is still a serving elder.

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  kairos

  That was a very well written letter.

  Thanks for the post!
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  Should I just tell my parents

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

  i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

  if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

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  kairos

  You don't need to try and convince them to leave WT.

  Don't feel obligated to tell them everything or anything about the ORG.
  That will be decided solely by you. ( you are not baptized )

  It's you that is leaving. That is the message that needs to be received.
  How you deliver it is yet to be seen.

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  best to you
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  Should I just tell my parents

  by BlackWolf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  lately i've been feeling just so fed up with this stupid religion i really can't take it anymore!

  i'm starting to think that maybe i should just tell my parents how i really feel.

  if they treat me too badly or kick me out i could probably stay with my non jw aunt.. ive just reached my breaking point, i don't really care what people think of me anymore.

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  kairos

  My opinion:

  Speak openly and freely to your nonJW aunt and make for certain you can move right in with her if your parents eject you from the house.

  When you have a plan in place spend as much time as you need to completely compose yourself in mind and on paper. Ask to sit with mom and dad. Tell them you need to speak openly, freely and without interruption, judgement or accusation. If they agree to hear you out, calmly and logically explain TTATT and why you are NOT going to get baptized or EVER become a JW in the future.

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  The Ball is now solidly in their court, isn't it?
  They assured you they would not judge or accuse you. Listen to what they say. What they 'offer'. Respectfully hear them out. ( don't interrupt or feed into their emotional pleas ) This is why you must be emotionally prepared to experience the worst well ahead of time.

  If they respect you as their child and allow you to be yourself until you decide to leave home, all is fine.

  Enjoy life!
  
  Anything else they may do that violates you as a person, remember, you already have 'the plan' in place. Make the phone call to your aunt and pack your bags.

  Enjoy life!

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  I would only suggest this if you have already emotionally prepared yourself for a lifetime of shunning... They may have misplaced their own loyalty and an absence of natural family bond or love because of the cult.

  Either outcome allows you to "Enjoy life".
  I hoped you noticed that. It really is all up to you.

  Take your time if you need to.

  Choose wisely. You get one shot at life.