Posts by kairos

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

You are only derailing yourself.

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The short version is, an enclosed flat earth/realm/infinite plane proves a creator.
Let's watch this unfold together.

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Whatever your position, are all the jabs and insults really needed?
I don't remember others being treated the way you've treated me on any other topic.
In the near four years I've been on this site I have never seen a thread get this many nasty replies.

I don't know any of you, so of course, I can't take it personally.

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IF I'm correct, imagine the change in humanity that would result.
World Peace or total chaos?

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

So you haven't proven anything, done any experiments or research of your own.

** copy that **

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

In short my 'side' doesn't need to present evidence because the entirety of science is the evidence. I could suggest you learn some basic planetary science but I'm sure watching a YouTube video would be a lot easier for you.

In other words, I'd be better served if I would return to ~~jehovah~~ the indoctrination of 'the entirety of science' and stop asking so many questions?

I already know the official story.

The questions and comments posted here are clearly evidence that other than a cursory scanning of what's been posted here, you are not researching a thing.

At the end of the day, if you are honest with yourself, you will admit that nearly everything you 'believe' or 'know to be true' is something you've just heard.

Have you proved it for yourself or do you trust those in authority first an foremost.
( Insert your JW awakening experience that likely turned your whole world upside down )

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

I have looked seriously at the so-called evidence for flat earth conspiracies and moon-landing conspiracies and many of the other ones.
They are all crap.
I just have too much self-respect to lower myself to debate them. There is no debate to be had. To believe them depends on a level of wilful ignorance that deserves ridicule.

Strong.

Have you done any of your own repeatable experiments?
Will you?

I have. Many times.
I keep doing them.

I've already told you I can prove it to you from the seashore/bay shore/ lake shore in ten minutes on a clear day.
There's literally 1000s of videos that prove this.
I could make my own, but then it would be on YouTube, so.... Not credible.

I will happily meet ANYONE in person and show you.
Open invitation until I announce otherwise.
I might even have a better camera by then.

( Nikon P900 )
Just searching that on google will point you down the rabbit hole...

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I'm actually surprised this topic took so long to appear here.
This is old news!

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

I have looked seriously at the so-called evidence for flat earth conspiracies and moon-landing conspiracies and many of the other ones.

Oh?

I suspect you have not.

They are all crap.

Damn effective debating right there^^
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What's the 'firmament'?
Who was admiral Byrd? ( have you heard his televised interview? )
What was Operation High Jump?
When was NASA formed?
Why is there an international treaty, effectively closing Antarctica?
Why are there no 'real', non-CGI pictures of the earth or satellites from space?
Why does high altitude balloon footage reveal a flat horizon at eye level when a fish eye lens isn't used? ( at 120,000 feet )

I await your well researched answers.

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

Flat earth nonsense is not worthy of any response other than ridicule.

How would you go about proving the curve?

What evidence would you present?
Do you rely solely on NASA photos?

Have YOU done any experiments of your own?
Can you repeat the findings?

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

these are 'real' NASA photos:

Walk me through it!

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When you are on the moon the earth looks small, when you are behind the moon and farther away, it's bigger...

Seriously?

Come forward. Tell us how this can be.

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And again, no stars?
( our cameras suck )

"you've been living in a dream world, Neo"

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these are 'real' NASA photos, too

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

If that's what gets you through the day.

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Start with Brian Foerster youtube channel.
Very well done and articulate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoSbF1EbOFM
( over a million views )
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"We all have the same internet"

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Singing todays WT

by road to nowhere in

the jist was that we all should sing.

then the first 6 or 8 paragraphs describe how early bible accounts have trained and set aside musicians to do the singing while everyone else listened.. the songs they have put out have no soul, rhythm, or soothing melodies as a whole.

the old hymns are some real music, even if you don't agree with the "teachings".. there is no admission of poetry using archaic language at times for affect or to add to the rhyme, they have to have everything agree with the grey bible.. anyone speak foreign languages?

kairos

When I attended, there was a lady that sang very loud and very badly.
We're talking, never in tune, with long, over-held notes that had a 'vibrato' that sounded like an injured animal, sometimes rising uncontrollably in pitch.
Imagine the worst singing you've ever heard, but worse.

It started to get out of hand when half the congregation was trying not to laugh during the songs. I can clearly remember opening or closing a meeting and ABSOLUTELY not making eye contact with certain ones when she was there ( which was always ).
Once you started laughing, you'd run the risk of laughing out loud during your own public prayer, which was soon to follow...

Don't miss any of it.

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Flat earth vs round earth

by Jrjw in

my brother has been talking about the earth being flat and some big conspiracy going on to make people beieve otherwise.

what are people's thoughts on this?.

kairos

So the Egyptians found some old tech, built the pyramids, and then promptly lost that tech again?

Many believe there was an ancient cataclysm 11-12k years ago.
See where your research takes you.