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  Judgement

  by davidmitchell in

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  https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2015-ewhc-1722-qb.pdfjust had a look at this 2015 legal judgement.

  one of a number of things that caught my eye was the statement in (11) that "the organisational structure of jehovahs witnesses is modelled on first century christianity as described in the bible".er, hardly.

  try acts 2: 44-45"all the believers were together and had everything in common.

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  davidmitchell

  https://jwleaks.files.wordpress.com/2012/06/2015-ewhc-1722-qb.pdf
  
  Just had a look at this 2015 legal judgement. One of a number of things that caught my eye was the statement in (11) that
  "The organisational structure of Jehovah’s Witnesses is modelled on first century Christianity as described in the bible".
  
  Er, hardly. Try Acts 2: 44-45
  "All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need".
  
  Also in Luke 14:33, Jesus is reported to have said:
  "Therefore, none of you can become my disciple if you do not give up all your possessions".
  
  And just one more example. In Matt 5:42, Jesus is reported to have instructed:
  "Give to him who begs from you, and do not refuse him who would borrow from you".
  
  Do JWs do any of these as a regular feature of their faith?
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  Interesting article on Infidels website

  by davidmitchell in

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  interesting article by matt marinelli on:.

  http://infidels.org/kiosk/article/doing-the-right-think-900.html.

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  davidmitchell

  Interesting article by Matt Marinelli on:

  http://infidels.org/kiosk/article/doing-the-right-think-900.html
  
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  Guardian article

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  this lengthy article was in yesterday's 'guardian', a national uk newspaper.

  (comments following thearticle are interesting!):.

  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

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  davidmitchell

  And the JWs just aren't knocking on the doors anymore.

  But also, in the UK, it's also that an increasing number of people dion't answer their door any more as its invariably someone trying to extract money from you, or sell you something, or get you involved in something. I simply don't answer my door these days when it's not a pre-arranged call.
  
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  Guardian article

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  this lengthy article was in yesterday's 'guardian', a national uk newspaper.

  (comments following thearticle are interesting!):.

  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon.

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  davidmitchell

  This lengthy article was in yesterday's 'Guardian', a national UK newspaper. (Comments following thearticle are interesting!):

  http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jul/14/jehovahs-witnesses-evangelism-church-god-armageddon
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  The first 4000 years Jehovah communicates with humans,the next 2000 years is given to Jesus and he communicates with no one.

  by smiddy in

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  the bible has ample evidence of god communicating with humans during the first 4 centuries.. since jesus time ,god has not communicated with humans at all .,in the same way as he did in the first 4 centuries .. in fact jesus has not communicated with humans in the same way as jehovah did for the first 4000 years., during his 2000 years to this date , .

  does not the bible say , god does not change , he is the same today as he was yesterday and will be tomorrow ?.

  so why was god communicating with humans on a regular basis , one way or another for 4000 years and then , neither jehovah or his son jesus christ ever directly contacted humans ?.

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  Jesus said that when the Holy Spirit comes, that he would instruct born again believers into all the ways of truth.

  The problem with this is that all these born-again Christians, supposedly guided directly by the Spirit, cannot agree amongst themselves, thus resulting in many many hundreds of different denominations and sects.

  
  
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  Will the resurrected marry/have children?

  by davidmitchell in

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  i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

  in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

  he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

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  Splash - many thanks. I've taken a copy of your message. Extremely useful!

  How people will live and function post-A has got to be one of the most important aspects of the whole subject. It's pathetic that the WT cannot give a straight answer to this. How many widows/widowers Witnesses are looking forward to being reunited with their now-dead spouse and are unaware of this damning anomaly in WT teaching?

  This returns to the point I made about 'Talon's' comment in his book - he rightly says that most WT pictures of the post-A paradise show couples and children and yet in fact the WT appears to believe that the only people who will be able to marry/be married, and have children are the Witness survivors of Armageddon, and they will be are in a minority of the total number who will eventually (and supposedly) inhabit 'the new earth'.

  This also begs the question of the state of those (the majority) who cannot marry - will they spend eternity bursting for sex, or will Jehovah completely remove all their sex urges? If so, then the WT can hardly claim that Jehovah has resurrected all those who never heard the WT message as their resurrected state does not resemble their original state as an important human drive has been removed. In reality, it would seem that the post-Armageddon world will be mainly inhabited by a-sexual people....

  This is 'Paradise'????....
  
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  Will the resurrected marry/have children?

  by davidmitchell in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have just finished reading 'brock talon's' two books.

  in one of them, entitled journey to god's house, pub.

  he comments on how the wt's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children.

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  i have just finished reading 'Brock Talon's' two books. In one of them, entitled Journey to God's House, pub. 2013, (pp.168-175),. he comments on how the WT's pictures of the post-armageddon world do not agree with their doctrines, namely that those who are physically resurrected will not marry/have children. As it is only JWs who survive the big A who can have children, the many pictures of (many) happy family groups are disputable.

  I've never thought about this, but on going to the WT site, in one (2014) article, theyappear to be distancing themselves from the view that anyone physically resurrected will not marry/have children:

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/w20140815/jesus-sadducees-marriage-after-resurrection/

  The article admits that the Bible does not give a direct answer (sheeesh! it's hardly a minor point!) and 'we will just have to wait and see' (you're in for a long wait!...).

  As a postscript, I am surprised that with all the information he gives about himself, the person who wrote these books - giving himself the pseudonym 'Brock Talon', has not been identified! I enjoyed them although I have to admit that I found Penton's and Franz's books much more enlightening.
  
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  The Power Of "IF"

  by dubstepped in

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  so, the whole may money grab episode of jwtv really looks bad to me and many others, obviously many here.

  i was looking on another website dedicated to active jw's and if you'll notice on post number 109 a little ways down (<click there to read) a person named luca dares to express some concerns over the latest episode.

  the following pages do contain one more person that has some issue with how things were presented.

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  davidmitchell

  I do believe that lots of spiritual food has been dispensed.

  I assume you are joking???
  
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  Newspaper article

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  boy, 7, taken away from his parents after judge rules he has been damaged by his jehovah's witness mother's religious beliefs http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092457/boy-7-taken-away-parents-judge-rules-damaged-jehovah-s-witness-mother-s-religious-beliefs.html.

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  davidmitchell

  Boy, 7, taken away from his parents after judge rules he has been damaged by his Jehovah's Witness mother's religious beliefs
  
  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3092457/Boy-7-taken-away-parents-judge-rules-damaged-Jehovah-s-Witness-mother-s-religious-beliefs.html
  
  
  
  

  
  
  
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  News article

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  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007905/south-wales-jehovah-s-witness-36-sex-15-year-old-schoolboy-avoids-jail-sentence.html.

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  davidmitchell

  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3007905/South-Wales-Jehovah-s-Witness-36-sex-15-year-old-schoolboy-avoids-jail-sentence.html