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  Was it just me or was something different about the memorial last night?

  by kpop in

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  this was the first memorial that i declined to do any work for the memorial.

  i was assigned as a parking attendant after getting downgraded from doing the sound and had no intention of doing either task but i had to attend for my family and continuation of my fade.

  i sat there last night listening to the talk and couldn't help but shake my head as my brain attempted to process the bs.

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  I wonder what would happen if someone took the wine when it's passed around and then just downed the whole glass in one?
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  The Russian letters

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so all the jw's i know are practically wetting their pants in excitement over the russian letters they are sending out.

  they seem to have this insane idea that putin's office will be pulled sky high with all these letters and they have this image in their imaginations of him having to open and read every letter (!).

  also all the jw's i know have all put their name and address on the letter... which couldn't have any repercussions of course (!

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  So all the jw's I know are practically wetting their pants in excitement over the Russian letters they are sending out. They seem to have this insane idea that Putin's office will be pulled sky high with all these letters and they have this image in their imaginations of him having to open and read every letter (!)

  Also all the jw's I know have all put their name and address on the letter... Which couldn't have any repercussions of course (!) I mean have they thought about this? They are sending their personal details to a government who hates jws! Insane!

  Well I was sent on the errand of sending my families letters, I posted them alright! .... IN THE BIN! Putin is not getting my families details for a database!

  Oh, and lastly the jws are also saying that this type of campaign has worked in the past, like in Malawi!
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  What would you say to the HH if you could?

  by purrpurr in

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  2. friends

  ok so there's no other jws in earshot and your on the ministry, the hh comes to the door, what would you say to them about jws if you could?.

  would you explain why your there when you don't want to be?.

  would you warn them about it being a cult?.

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  Ok so there's no other jws in earshot and your on the ministry, the HH comes to the door, what would you say to them about jws if you could?

  Would you explain why your there when you don't want to be?

  Would you warn them about it being a cult?

  Would you tell them to look at free minds etc?

  What would you say?
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  Stranger asks about your kids mental wellness. ..

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  last night at the meeting there was a suggested presentation about the new mags, which cover the issue of depression in minors.

  the jw jumps straight from "hi how are ya" to "how is your kids mental well-being " and of course the hh is more than happy to discuss the inner workings of their child's mind with a stranger whose just knockedmon their door(!).

  if it was me i'd be majorly creeper out!.

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  Last night at the meeting there was a suggested presentation about the new mags, which cover the issue of depression in minors. The jw jumps straight from "hi how are ya" to "how is your kids mental well-being " and of course the HH is more than happy to discuss the inner workings of their child's mind with a stranger whose just knockedmon their door(!)

  I mean just how likely is this? If it was me I'd be majorly creeper out!

  And then also in another presentation the brother asks the HH "do you text?" Which apparently is a really good trick to get someone's number, and of course the HH happily shares it.

  So detached from reality
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  Leaving the jws is a "lifestyle choice" according to a counsellor

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course i explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone i'm not.

  her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice".

  i tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no.

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  I am moving on to another counsellor, but the nhs has long long waiting lists, by the time you actually get an appointment quite frankly you are just grateful to be seeing anyone at all.

  And no I can't afford to go private
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  A jw thought trap

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been watching louis therouxs documentary about scientology.

  one of the thought traps they createn in people is that they make them belive that all good things come from following the doctrines correctly and all bad things come from not doing so.

  and in this way it becomes a thought trap where the person is self regulated mentally by trying ever harder to be more indoctrinated.

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  I've been watching Louis therouxs documentary about scientology. One of the thought traps they createn in people is that they make them belive that all good things come from following the doctrines correctly and all bad things come from not doing so. And in this way it becomes a thought trap where the person is self regulated mentally by trying ever harder to be more indoctrinated. so that they can get these good things in their lives.

  And I thought about the jw doctrine of all good things come from Jehovah and all bad things are persecution from the devil. It's exactly the same thought trap. If something's gone wrong, well maybe Satan went after you because you missed some meetings? And if you get a pay rise well it's Jehovah blessing you because of how well you're doing spiritually.
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  Leaving the jws is a "lifestyle choice" according to a counsellor

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
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  so i had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course i explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone i'm not.

  her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice".

  i tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no.

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  So I had my first appointment with a counsellor, of course I explained about being a born in jw, mentally leaving, the penalty of doing so and therefore the mental strain of pretending to be someone I'm not.

  Her response was that she couldn't help me with that because leaving a cult was a "lifestyle choice". I tried to say to her that its a cult not a religion and how it brain washed me but no. There's no box to tick for "former cult member" and so they cannot help.

  I don't feel like leaving was a lifestyle choice, it was an awakening to a reality that had been hidden from me and now I'm having to sit on the fence of both worlds

  Do you think it's a lifestyle choice?
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  HELP needed from folks in UK, esp. in Scotland!

  by WTS Archive in

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  2. friends

  tl;dr: if you live either in scotland or in other parts of uk and you don't mind traveling, you might be able to help a fellow ex-jw by being present during a courtcase where she alone has to face more than two dozens of jws who have ruined their business.

  please contact me directly for details on when and where the court case will be held (i will know these details in few days probably).

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  I hate to sound paranoid but have a think about this... what if you were an enterprising elder who wanted to flush out the local apostates? Telling them when and where to turn up to support one of their own might be a very good idea! Then you just stand in the shadows with a discrete camera and see if you recognise anyone...

  As I say I could be being paranoid and I'm perfectly willing to revise my thoughts on this if presented with some proof
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  "back in the day people didn't know not to abuse kids"- a jw explanation for their abuse scandal

  by purrpurr in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a few weeks back i showed the guardian article about the borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw.

  their response was quite amazing.

  they told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.. they said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.. about the borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused.

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  A few weeks back I showed the guardian article about the Borg refusing to cooperate with the charity commission into child abuse to a fellow jw. Their response was quite amazing. They told me that in the 50s-80s people didn't know about child abuse, didn't know it was wrong and no one really believed children when they claimed they had been abused - even worldly people.

  They said that alot of the time children lie about being abused or therapists plant false memories in their heads and that apostates lie about being abused to undermine our faith.

  About the Borg not cooperating with the commission they said that it was probably because they wanted to protect the identities of jw's who had been abused. They also said that it was Satan who was behind the commission and that not cooperating was a way of protecting the society from them/Satan.

  They also claimed that other churches are refusing to cooperate with the commission too.

  Although they agreed that it looks like the JW's have something to hide.

  They claimed that all that child abuse stuff happened in the past and doesn't happen now. The society has never told elders not to go to the police and that elders who haven't have decided that on their own.

  Of course I shot down most of these arguments and finally they said that it boiled down to one thing... that we should trust in Jehovah's organisation and if we do then we won't pay attention to these discouraging reports...

  It was a real exercise in idiocy and CD!
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  New non jw emergency contact card

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've just put together a emergency contact card for me to carry in case of accidents etc.

  it's not a blood card and as i filled it out i realised that the jw blood card is extremely impersonal, there's no room for really explaining medical needs or issues, there's hardly any room for medications to be listed.

  and the contact details section is very limited.

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  I've just put together a emergency contact card for me to carry in case of accidents etc. It's not a blood card and as I filled it out I realised that the jw blood card is extremely impersonal, there's no room for really explaining medical needs or issues, there's hardly any room for medications to be listed. And the contact details section is very limited. It's like the person isn't as important as the doctrine.

  In my new card I've been able to list several contacts and in what situation/order to call them. I've been able to explain at lenght my medical needs and medications and my drs details etc. In essence its all me , none of it is the Borg.

  Ps, I'm refusing a blood card and this gives me an answer to the challenge of "if you were in an accident no one would know who to call or who your next of kin is!" Now I can produce this Ta Da!