over the years i have seen plenty of elders and ministerial servants touch other j.w's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah.
i know of other sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring christian friends, so they get away with it.
it angers me that no j.w's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise..
When I was a teen I had an elder fondle my hip/thigh in full view of the whole cong, everyone just said he was being playful!
I also had as a teen a fellow teen "accidentally" touch my privates
When I mentioned both instances to my mum she said "I wouldn't make a fuss about it, I'm sure their as embarrassed about it as you are and we wouldn't want to make their lives difficult after all the brothers do have such a lot on their plates"
years ago my parents would record these talks and play them back all the time.
when they both died, we cleaned out the house and found 50 plus cassette tapes of recorded talks and they were labeled the year and the speaker at the time.
that was in the year 2000. we just gave them to there jw friends because i did not want to keep them for recording of music.
Attendants often harass those who have a recording machine, they will try to embarrass the people who are using it continually throughout the assembly day. Claiming that its taking up a seat/ in the way if on the floor.
I'm sure this is because they are directed to do so.
i'm finding i'm getting more and more interested in debunking the bible/ christian beliefs.
looking into the evolution and history of how religion develope.
i'd like to study this further but i don't know what subject it would be classified as?.
I'm finding I'm getting more and more interested in debunking the bible/ Christian beliefs. Looking into the evolution and history of how religion develope.
I'd like to study this further but I don't know what subject it would be classified as?
Ideas?
for those who don't know, asexual is someone who feels no sexual desire for other people.
they may often want the companionship of a relationship but with no benefits.
what would the jws view be of a jw dating an asexual worldly person?
For those who don't know, asexual is someone who feels no sexual desire for other people. They may often want the companionship of a relationship but with no benefits.
What would the jws view be of a jw dating an asexual worldly person?
i had a conversation with an old jw friend and he spent a good part of the evening preaching to me.
as i am “inactive”, i am forced to stay low, thus, i was not argumentative.
yet, at one moment, he said that angels protect jws in field service and other situations.
The "not tempted beyond what you can bare" thing is a lie. I realised this year's ago when on the brink of suicide. Instead I suddenly realised I was praying to little more than an imagery friend.
That was the day I mentally stopped being a jw
according to a post over at reddit this was said at the annual meeting.
did anyone else hear this?
this is huge and very telling if they did actually say this.
I have been thinking for years that at some point they will claim that the paradise will be spiritual rather than literall. I wonder if this is them phasing that in?
last thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.
in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".
and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!
Last Thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item. In which having told the audience that WT doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.
Among the usual scriptures cited "honor God with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value.."
And it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the UK would be two one penny coins! I wonder if the congregation could get away with dropping 2p into the box every month? In a cong of 100 people that would add up to barely £2! Maybe next time they do their begging for money I should suggest that?
What do you think?
according to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in.
the wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.. the wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.. ...
in what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children?
According to today's wt, jws are now encouraged to start bible studys with worldy kids even if their parents dont want to join in. The wt suggests that the study should take place with the parent present or with another mature jw present.
The wt suggests that studying with the kid may make the parent eventually want a study too.
... seriously?!! In what situation would any worldly parent allow some stranger from a werid cult to come jnto their house and convert their children? And what child would want that either? Have you ever heard of this happening?
And that's before you consider the jw child abuse angle, it seems inspite of their dark reputation in this matter the WT is actually encouraging jws to target individual children and to study with them on their own! Thereby creating a prime opportunity for any peadofile to abuse the child!
i've had the misfortune to encounter quite a few mummies boys in the cult.
men aged 20-40 who although in men's bodies think,act and behave like children.
their mother's had them tied to the apron strings tightly.
I've had the misfortune to encounter quite a few mummies boys in the cult. Men aged 20-40 who although in men's bodies think,act and behave like children. Their mother's had them tied to the apron strings tightly. Several of them were unable/unwilling to even have their own opinions! Certainly not allowed to make their own decisions. I even dated one for a while and every thought, feeling and decision was run past mummy and whatever mummy said was law. Nothing could budge this, no reasoning or evidence could change his mind once his mum had made it for him. One jw guy i met even spoke in a cutesy childlike manner and actually moved like a child!
Have you met jw mummies boys? Is it a common phenomenon in the cult? What do you think causes this?
during the "do you love me more than these" watchtower study on sunday, i got so angry on many occasions, hearing people make comments like "if you enjoy your job, you're an enemy of jehovah" and "the only reason we're here is to preach.
work and relaxation only exist to help us to preach".. the paragraph talking about the "do more!
" attitude in the world getting people down really got me down just reading it, as it applies so much to the borg.. i also found the ecclesiastes scripture quoted to be ironic, as the rest of the article tells is that nothing is better or more of a priority than to preach;.
Spiral, and yet in the convention drama remember the wife of lot the wife is portrayed as stupidly worrying abouthow they will survive without pension or savings when they retire? And also the same concern for her daughter's, this is no coincidence I'm sure many jws have the same concerns and the most recent drama condemns them for it
