despite decades of the feminist movement, watchtower's attitude of woman being inferior has changed little, with pauline sexism justified as inspired, on the basis that women are lesser emotionally, intellectually and physically.
jehovah's witnesses seem to accept this with little resistance.
is there anything about the #metoo movement that may wake followers up?
Phoebe I know exactly what you mean. I've met some puke making sisters who just seemed to glory in how submissive they were to anything with a penis! Often they put on this cutie pie little girl voice too and would do this simpering eye batting routine. Needless to say they were held up as examples to the other sisters in the cong. And of course the brothers adored them!
Personally they made me cringe!
just spent 8 hours in a 1 day elders school last weekend.
clarification given: "moving forward any elder, ms, or pioneer who themselves or someone under their roof enrolls in higher education, may no longer qualify for privileges in the congregation.
their qualifications will have to be reviewed by their boe.".
Brian if you could record these talks for later use, it would blow their lies clear out the water
i have had greatly varied experiences with hlc members over the years.
i was never one myself, but i knew several of them personally.
most struck me as being generally decent human beings.
When I had to have surgery I had already woken up to TTAT and I had already been told by my surgeons that there would be no blood issue at all, no blood needed in this op. But as soon as the cong HLC elder heard I was having surgery he started pestering me to allow him to do his hlc thing and have his moment of glory, telling my surgeons about jws crazy beliefs and discussing my medical situation with them! I said no no no thanks all the way, yet he kept on at me, even stooping to bombarding my relations with his "loving concern". I stuck to my guns and kept hlc out of it. After that he never spoke to me again! Lol!
over the years i have seen plenty of elders and ministerial servants touch other j.w's knees, thighs, give very long and intimate hugs, blah, blah, blah.
i know of other sisters who have felt really uncomfortable with such behaviour, but the brothers have just explained that they're being loving as caring christian friends, so they get away with it.
it angers me that no j.w's will speak out about historic or ongoing inappropriate touching for fear of being disfellowshipped or losing the hope of paradise..
When I was a teen I had an elder fondle my hip/thigh in full view of the whole cong, everyone just said he was being playful!
I also had as a teen a fellow teen "accidentally" touch my privates
When I mentioned both instances to my mum she said "I wouldn't make a fuss about it, I'm sure their as embarrassed about it as you are and we wouldn't want to make their lives difficult after all the brothers do have such a lot on their plates"
years ago my parents would record these talks and play them back all the time.
when they both died, we cleaned out the house and found 50 plus cassette tapes of recorded talks and they were labeled the year and the speaker at the time.
that was in the year 2000. we just gave them to there jw friends because i did not want to keep them for recording of music.
Attendants often harass those who have a recording machine, they will try to embarrass the people who are using it continually throughout the assembly day. Claiming that its taking up a seat/ in the way if on the floor.
I'm sure this is because they are directed to do so.
i'm finding i'm getting more and more interested in debunking the bible/ christian beliefs.
looking into the evolution and history of how religion develope.
i'd like to study this further but i don't know what subject it would be classified as?.
I'm finding I'm getting more and more interested in debunking the bible/ Christian beliefs. Looking into the evolution and history of how religion develope.
I'd like to study this further but I don't know what subject it would be classified as?
Ideas?
for those who don't know, asexual is someone who feels no sexual desire for other people.
they may often want the companionship of a relationship but with no benefits.
what would the jws view be of a jw dating an asexual worldly person?
For those who don't know, asexual is someone who feels no sexual desire for other people. They may often want the companionship of a relationship but with no benefits.
What would the jws view be of a jw dating an asexual worldly person?
i had a conversation with an old jw friend and he spent a good part of the evening preaching to me.
as i am “inactive”, i am forced to stay low, thus, i was not argumentative.
yet, at one moment, he said that angels protect jws in field service and other situations.
The "not tempted beyond what you can bare" thing is a lie. I realised this year's ago when on the brink of suicide. Instead I suddenly realised I was praying to little more than an imagery friend.
That was the day I mentally stopped being a jw
according to a post over at reddit this was said at the annual meeting.
did anyone else hear this?
this is huge and very telling if they did actually say this.
I have been thinking for years that at some point they will claim that the paradise will be spiritual rather than literall. I wonder if this is them phasing that in?
last thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item.
in which having told the audience that wt doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.. among the usual scriptures cited "honor god with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value..".
and it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the uk would be two one penny coins!
Last Thursday meeting was the verbal begging bowl item. In which having told the audience that WT doesn't ask for money... proceeded to then ask for money.
Among the usual scriptures cited "honor God with your valuable things" etc was also the widows mite story "she dropped in two coins of little value.."
And it occurred to me, two coins of little value in the UK would be two one penny coins! I wonder if the congregation could get away with dropping 2p into the box every month? In a cong of 100 people that would add up to barely £2! Maybe next time they do their begging for money I should suggest that?
What do you think?
