I tried explaining the flawed logic behind this governing body arrangement to my JW cousin and sister and I was amazed at the level of mind control they are in. Every reasoning they gave was because of the watchtower and they didn't even know it. They just couldn't see that the circumsion issue led to an ad hoc committee being formed to address that particular issue. Just simple contextual logic, they couldn't fathom. That tells you the sheer amount of control Watchtower has over innocent peoples minds
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How Did A Proven "Fake," "Phony" Arrangement ["governing body"] ...Become The "Faithful & Discreet Slave" Arrangement???
by Littleleslie inquestion:.
how did a proven "fake," "phony" arrangement [like "governing body" arrangement]...become the "faithful & discreet slave" arrangement???.
so then if it can be proven, the "governing body" term and arrangement is a farce, a fake, a made-up nonscriptural arrangement itself, (made up and concocted by nathan knorr & frederick franz in 1944) then how can this fake arrangement now suddenly become the "faithful & discreet slave" that jesus spoke of?
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for those still "in" what's the mood
by lastchance inin my area the general sense is bleak.
many are in survival mode.
even at the convention the appearance of the majority was unhappy and tired.
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crazyhorse
I'm still in. In my Cong, its all made up of hypocrites and attention-seeking people who come to put on a show in the Cong. I do have nice friends there and yes because I'm a born-in I go to meetings like it's a ritual just like any other christian. It's no different from when I was born except that I'm "awake" to reality.
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Welcoming International Delegates for London 2014 IC
by Da.Furious ini had the pleasure of joining jw's on the weekend to greet the international delegates who are attending the london 2014 international convention at twickenham.. nothing interesting, just waiting for someone with a badge to come through the doors and all will cheer!
the interesting part is how they are behaving:.
1- the overseer: looked really bored, trying to impress surroundings by talking loud and how he can talk to immigration and check on passengers.
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crazyhorse
All these nice people being controlled by 7 or 8 men....appalling. The love they think their showing is a "forced love" not a real love
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My JW friend turned down the "privilege" of working the literature table at the park. Why?
by MissFit ini have written before about my jw friend that plays hookie with me on sundays.
we skip the meeting and go straight to lunch and margaritas.
she converted later in life and has been a jw for over 25 years.. she is in her late 70's and has had heart problems.
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crazyhorse
I like this old lady!. The metropolitan witnessing thing is pointless to me. All the pioneers do is all day and some even sleep . and at the end they get to write many hours and books just to show they are doing the "greatest work" ever. Smh. Didn't Jesus say not to show your righteousness on front of people?
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Give me a reason not to go back
by chukky 594 inbeen out now for 10 yrs but life is a mess.
starting to think its because i have no spiritual compass.
why shouldn't i consider going back?.
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crazyhorse
I'm thinking you think your life is a mess because your whole life and contacts revolved around the watchtower and because of that strong connection it seems to you you are really missing something. But the thing is, many JWs have messy lives. A messy life is independent of religious organization. But, if you really think you want to go back its your choice. But for me, learning about the real truth has given a sense of inner peace through Jesus. I hope you find that, any choice you make. In the end it's your personal conscience that should guide you whether to go back or not, weighing all the costs and benefits to YOU.
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Hello JWN family!
by crazyhorse inhello jwn!
im a 22 yr active jw and i recently realized the truth about the truth.
im from an african country where most people dont think critically and just accept things as they are without questioning.
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Thanks all ! ;)
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Will the WT get a twitter account?
by bohm inwith the recent success of the website which really seem to be working beyond at least my expectations, will the wt get a twitter account in the near(ish) future?.
those who guess right win the bragging rights.
my guess is no since twitter invite to much discussion, however they will eventually jump on a popular twitter-like social media service when one arise that is more easily controlled..
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crazyhorse
Lol. I've also speculated on them having Facebook or twitter. If they really want the preaching work to go on well, they really have to explore these avenues. But as they fear apostates so much I don't think they'll ever do it. They always want to be different .
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Hello JWN family!
by crazyhorse inhello jwn!
im a 22 yr active jw and i recently realized the truth about the truth.
im from an african country where most people dont think critically and just accept things as they are without questioning.
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crazyhorse
Hello JWN! Im a 22 yr active JW and I recently realized the truth about the truth. Im from an african country where most people dont think critically and just accept things as they are without questioning. I am a born-in, JW and was also a mindless drone till my time in college. Now I see why they hammer on the higher education thing. All along from childhood I had doubts but suppressed them with: "We are the only ones who preach and light gets brighter and all that stuff..... .But during university I found myself asking lots of questions and I prayed to God to let me serve him with my heart not because I have been told to. All what I have seen with my eyes in the org has proven otherwise from what they claim to be. I am fatherless and the elders have no clue how to provide fatherly love. All they care about is how many hours you put in and what " spiritual goals" you had and how the WT can make use of you. I was surprised only those outside the org were able to show me genuine love and affection. All the hypocrisy, lack of love, fakeness, seeking attention, a**-kissing, politics, double standards, flip flopping doctrines, thought-stopping techniques, and shallowness of elders and MSs have shown me this org is not directed by any holy spirit as they claim. I couldnt believe it when I realized the sheer amount of control I and other JWs are under. One elder even told me He has to be loyal to the governing body. Ugh that was stupid. "They don't even know him to know you". I then realized how the GB has equated themselves with God. What a Shame. I have a lot to write but I don't want to bore you.....bottom line: I'm glad I've awaken and I have an enormous amount of peace in me without fear and guilt. I'm thankful to the numerous websites like this one that have validated my doubts. For now i have to stay in cos the cost of leaving is too big for me to carry. My whole family is strongly in it and there is no way I can convince even one of them of the illusion theyre under. I'll wait till I leave the country or I become very independent PS: any other person from an African country here?
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How have you changed since finding TTATT ?
by Phizzy inon coftys thread about his former pastor trying to re-convert him, which is very long but a tremendous discussion of the problem of evil, a poster, sunny23, wrote :.
" having been 7 months since i first posted on the first page of this topic i have just read those posts and acknowledged a huge transfromation in myself for the better."..
i was only thinking the other day how, as i discovered this site and ttatt, i really changed as a person in so many ways, and i think mainly for the better.. i have been "born again" !!.
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crazyhorse
Its been about two months now since learning TTATT and I agree with Dis-member. I have a sense of freedom that's truly peaceful and in tune with Jesus that it makes me have an inner sense of happiness . I now serve God out of my desire to do not because I'm being told to or because I am doing it for the Watchtower. The while WT thing is a biig barrier in serving God. They have blocked the way to Jesus and to God but many of the sleeping witnesses have no idea of this.
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WTF THIS S*** IS REAL!!!!
by Yondaime inas i am typing this post i am constantly looking over my shoulder to see if anybody is at my bedroom door lol guys i know i am stuck in a a cult.
but this s*** is f****** crazy!!!!.
w13 11/15 p.16 par.17 -- " at that time, the life-saving direction that we receive from jehovahs organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint.
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crazyhorse
I'm 22 years and yes I couldn't believe it too! I was born into a cult. And when I look at my whole family with their obsession with "the truth", it sickens me. I am so glad that when I prayed to Jehovah to show me what the real truth is, he opened my eyes to the truth about the truth. Everything seemed to crumble before my eyes and I walk with the freeness of mind in Jesus' name. I'm glad I never saw any sense in " higher education " saga and went to university even though I was grilled by the some elders and brothers. I told myself if they state explicitly that we shouldn't go to uni then I'll leave but what I am seeing is equivalent to a law....
Anyway I'm glad I'm not under the control of the GB. God controls me. For now there's nothing I can do but stay. Its horrible but I have to.
And thanks to you all for validating my serious doubts about this dangerous , mind-eating "org"