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  People okay with being mind controlled/brainwashed?

  by Joliette in

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  i have actually heard of people saying that they are okay with being brainwashed and/or mind controlled?

  does this make sense to you guys?.

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  SAHS

  I’ve heard people on the platform relate how people have replied to the question of brainwashing that they thought their brains need a good washing.

  I think that it’s not so much mental laziness as it is a need to cope with an intrinsic sense of insecurity. It’s a sort of placebo effect in that people have a sense of calm and optimism when they believe that they are in the hands of a good doctor, psychiatrist, faith healer, or “religious practitioner” such as an evangelistic ministry or a quasi-religious movement such as the Watchtower. They can thereby allow themselves to come under their “care,” trusting that at least someone is competent enough to sort of “do the driving” for them and lead them to security, stability, prosperity, and perhaps ultimate salvation.

  It’s sort of like how I like to put my trust in taking a daily multivitamin like “Centrum” – I trust that it has a sufficiently balanced proportion of essential vitamins and elements which has a reasonable efficacy to my health. I don’t want to bother taking a bunch of separate supplements or herbal remedies; I just trust that whatever is in each of those Centrum tablets is what it should be – I just trust the men in the white lab coats to figure it out for me. . . . But, unlike a bunch of disingenuous knuckleheads like the Governing Body, I know that those men in white lab coats in the pharmaceutical industry know what they’re doing.
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  New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  it is painful to read.

  check out the 1/15/14 wt.

  i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.

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  “villagegirl”: “Still how can old school witnesses from the 70's still be hanging on? And how can anyone with access to the Internet be taken in? Its mindboggling.”

  Actually, the whole phenomenon of the rise and continued morphing of the Jehovah’s Witness movement really, in effect, serves as a gargantuan and elaborate modern-day psychology experiment. No university or government research group could possibly execute such a large-scale psychology experiment relating to just how – and how much – people could be persuaded to follow a cultic and idiosyncratic religion like the Watchtower without question.

  Much like other major “cultural” events during the last 100 years, such as the Nazi empire of World War II, the rise (and fall) of Communistic governments, the predominance of various little cultic groups (Moonies, Mormons, Hare Krishna, David Koresh, Heaven’s Gate, etc.), and the significant numbers of people still smoking cigarettes despite all the contraindicative evidence – all these real-life examples can be used as massive psychology experiments which have basically fallen into the lap of pure anthropological scientific study, as these phenomena have already occurred naturally among human society.

  It’s almost like those humorous practical gags you see on TV shows like “Candid Camera,” “Bloopers Practical Jokes,” “Just For Laughs Gags,” “The Jamie Kennedy Experiment,” etc. where ordinary people on the street become unwitting participants in humorously intriguing parodies to see their genuine natural reactions.

  So, basically, the JWs are just another practical sociological experiment. . . . Or at least just another practical gag – only we’re the ones getting the laugh.
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  Well an Elder told me why all the new revised NWT bibles are grey/gray in color

  by StoneWall in

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  while in discussion with an elder from my old congregation, he asked if i had been given an opportunity to see the new bibles yet.. i told him yes that a family member had showed me one a few days back and some of the improvements (changes) that were in it.. as our conversation went along he asked me what i thought of the color.

  i said well its certainly different from the black cover i was so used to or even going back further a few decades the green covered bibles when i was a child.

  (we both got a chuckle out of that).

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  “fulltimestudent”: “Lollypop pink with a barbie doll on the cover.”

  LOL! They could call that the “Leo Greenlees Edition.”
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  New Study Watchtower Celebrates 100 year Anniversary of the Kingdom

  by Skinnedsheep in

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  it is painful to read.

  check out the 1/15/14 wt.

  i am going to throw an invisible party to celebrate.

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  We can “see” Jesus’ invisible presence since 1914 through our figurative “eyes of understanding”—which I guess means that you need to order your magic Watchtower decoder glasses. Yes, don’t delay. Order Now! Just call 1 800 blah, blah, blah. (Or just look for the frigin decoder ring in your next box of Captain Crunch. . . . . Or, best yet: just come here. We’ll fix those bloody “eyes of understanding” for ya!)
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  What Was Your First Experience In Exposing Yourself To "Apostasy"?

  by minimus in

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  as a young teenager, i would look at "apostate" books at the city library.

  i was always intrigued as to what was sooo bad and other than a few writings of some that seemed like they hated the witnesses, i would clandestinely look at literature, especially in "christian" bookstores.. it took years for me to finally disconnect.

  i will say that ray franz' books enlightened me the most!.

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  Actually, it was this very Board that did it for me. There was a reference in one of the threads to “Spiritual Food At the Proper Time,” as featured at “http://www.freeminds.org” – it’s a chronological listing and comparison of all the Watchtower doctrines right from the start. That historical synopsis was very informative and eye-opening for me. I could see the development of that mess of contrived dogma and discrepancies – the insanity – as it played out over the years.

  I came on-board to this Board around the turn of this millennium because my dad used to scare me about sinning against the holy spirit (thus my user name), and so I figured: If I’ve already been condemned by unforgivable sin by “going too far” in the obsession of certain bizarre fantasies in my teens (it’s in my very first post), then I might was well be here – at JWDB. And the rest, as they say, “is history!”
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  How many have read 'Crisis of Conscience'?

  by tornapart in

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  for me it was the book!

  it opened my eyes.

  i started it thinking it would just enlighten me about how the organisation works.

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  Hi “tornapart.” I read both Crisis of Conscience and In Search of Christian Freedom, and I can certainly relate to where you said, “I was certain it wouldn't shake my faith. Boy! Was I wrong!!!” Although, in my case, I was certain that it would only confirm the fact that the Watchtower is not God’s organization – and indeed it did.

  The first Watchtower exposé book I read was 30 Years a Watchtower Slave, by William J. Schnell. The latest of such books I read was Apocalypse Delayed, by M. James Penton (second edition).

  The absolute best authority on the matter, of course, is our dear Raymond Franz. His above classic two books are very insightful and eye-opening, to say the least.
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  Come... take the free gift of the water of life!

  by tec in

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  peace to you all!.

  for some time now, i have been arguing and debating and discussing matters of god and the spirit (who is christ).

  i have tried to share as he has given me to share whenever he gives me something to share.

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  SAHS

  All replies thus far: Well said. My sentiments exactly.

  “He has been asking me” . . . . Looks like you’ve been getting direct communication with God. Maybe you should start up a new magazine which divulges His thoughts apparently being expressed through you. I hear there’s some pretty good money in that. (Someone already tried that.)
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  Toronto, ON, Canada - Ex-Jw Meetup Sept 21 @ noon

  by slimk in

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  for more details please visit the link below:.

  http://www.meetup.com/oexjws/events/138808682/.

  or pm me for more details.. hopefully we can find a few toronto area lurkers on here that would be interested in meeting likeminded people in person!.

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  I’ll be there for sure. Just have to think of a get-out-of-field-service excuse. (I guess the usual tired-with-headache excuse will do.)
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  What is it about the Jehovah Witnesses that disturb you most.

  by Narcissistic Supply in

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  “Wasanelder Once”: “. . . their total lack of community responsibility.”

  As it is September 11 th today, I can’t help but thinking of the original September 11 th when shortly after the World Trade Centre attack, the JWs showed up around the ground zero area, and what did they do? Help out with what needed to be done at the time, like clearing away the rubble and serving food and drinks to the disaster workers? Noooo. I heard that they were bragging about handing out magazines, books, and tracts. (Big surprise.) Instead of showing tangible community spirit, they used it as just another marketing opportunity.

  “Comatose”: “All the time and everywhere I went. Walking dead people.”

  That reminds me of that movie with Bruce Willis and Haley Joel Osment called “The Sixth Sense,” where the boy says, “I see dead people.” Now, however, instead of seeing “dead people,” when we look afar at the JWs and people who want to join them, we just see stupid people.
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  So Jw's are allowed to celebrate baby showers, but not birthdays?? huh??

  by nolongerconfused in

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  perhaps, one of the most arrogant and contradicting behaviors of jdubs.... what is the difference between celebrating a baby shower and a birthday?...they both have ancient origins, from pagan people, including egyptians and the greek.... have you guys noticed any other hypocrite celebrations/behaviors jdubs engage in?.

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  “blondie”:

  “Let me add this Question from Readers. This is definitely a "Vomit Alert."”

  Actually, that is more of a “vomit alert,” Blondie. It is really much more of a “steam-coming-out-of-the-ears-angry alert!” And the way the Watchtower Society talks about women – I suppose it was closer to the “What-is-a-woman-anyway,-but-a-hank-of-hair-and-a-bag-of-bones” era enjoyed by Judge Franklin Rutherford. These piggish guys deserved to be slapped profusely.

  As for birthdays, all I can think of is Jesus’ choice words at Matthew 23:24: “You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.” (NIV)