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  By their own logic, JW's should leave Watchtower.......

  by snare&racket in

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  "university and college campuses are notorious for bad behaviordrug and alcohol abuse, immorality, cheating, hazing, and the list goes on.

  watchtower2005 oct 1 p.28.

  having been to university and a jw..it made me think about their logic....... "jehovah's witness congregations are notorious for bad behavioralcohol abuse, immorality, cheating, domestic abuse, child abuse and the list goes on.

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  SAHS

  And don’t forget the advice at Jeremiah 51:45: “Get out of her midst, my people!,” and at Revelation 18:4, 5: “I heard another voice out of heaven say: ‘Get out of her, my people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you do not want to receive part of her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up to heaven, . . .’” When you think if it, basically everything the WT has taught right from the very beginning has later been deemed by themselves to be false. So, if we are supposedly to “get out of her [false religion, as symbolized by Babylon the Great]” because of it being, in fact, “false religion” (as the WTS would say), then, naturally, by the same reasoning, people should also “get out of” the WTS – which itself has continually been proven to be a haven for false teachings, not to mention “a dwelling place of demons and a place where every unclean spirit and every unclean and hated bird [or habitual child rapist, wife-beater, etc.] lurks!” (Revelation 18:2)

  The WTS has always been oh so good at pointing the moral finger at everyone else, but now, especially of late in this technologically advanced information age, it is being exposed for what it really is. And thank God for that!
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  I just wrote a new Kingdom Melody, False Prophets Fade Away, here are the lyrics

  by Greybeard in

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  false prophets fade away.

  you tend to pretend to be something.

  you claim to proclaim in gods name .

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  SAHS

  A new song should be something along the lines of:

  “Fear them not, fear them not,

  The governing body is full of s’not;

  It won’t come true, it won’t come true,

  S’not for me, s’not for you;

  I wish they’d go, and not come back,

  Our rights they must always attack;

  False prophets, be gone, just get out,

  So free and joyful we may shout!”

  
  Now there’s a page from the kind of songbook which really ought to be published.
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  Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?

  by runForever in

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  richard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.

  is this legal?

  another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.

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  Funny thing is, any records in the WT database regarding sexual molestation of children apparently take forever to find when requested by the “worldly” justice system – conveniently – but, however, if someone tries to escape from the WT radar or they have any real nastiness on their record, such as having committed clinking glasses in a toast or participating in a birthday or celebrating mother’s/father’s day or smoking a cigarette or eating blood sausage, etc., etc., etc. (i.e., having broken any of the WT’s rules), then, well, it’s amazing just how fast those records can be accessed and used against someone! The pedophilia records are (apparently) enmeshed within an infinite web of data, but your official records of “sin” against the holy rules of the WT get accessed in the blink of an eye. Amazing, isn’t it?
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  For God So Loves the Western World...

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  ...that only people from those countries can lead 'his organization'.. a few years ago, one conversation stopper people would often bring up to jws in my country is: 'you guys are an american religion'.

  the standard answer we were formatted to give to shoot that down was that "god does not favor any nationality over others.

  however some countries do possess some advantages needed for the advancement of the divine work.

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  One thing that has always puzzled me, as it also does non-JWs, is the fact that the WT organization leadership and management is entirely comprised of men, and no women whatsoever. I showed a photograph of the JW governing body to a non-JW friend of mine, and immediately he asked me, “No women? Why aren’t there any women?” He was quite surprised that women aren’t allowed to be in any kind of position within the JW organization.

  Requiring absolutely 100% males in the WTS’ organizational structure (other than the toilet-cleaning, laundry-washing women at the very bottom) naturally cuts out about half of all human diversity. Women, if they’re of the 144,000 anointed class, can apparently enjoy equal partnership after they die in heaven, but here on earth, not even squat. And that, to me, is one of the big reasons why I know that the WTS couldn’t possible represent the divine will of an Almighty God.

  Incidentally, “Tempest in a Teacup,” I’m rather curious which country it is you live in? You don’t have to say if you don’t want to, but I’m just curious.
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  Does everyone here know they are on record with JW's forever?

  by runForever in

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  richard ashe a full-time special servant of the order of jehovah's witnesses testified in the lopez case that every single disfellowshipping and disassociation and other things have all been scanned in 2011 and are and will be on permanent record with jw's forever.

  is this legal?

  another completely ironic and warped thing is the disfellowshipping form is called the s77 form.

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  Regardless of whatever legalities there are, I say who the heck cares whether all the disfellowshippings and disassociations, etc. are to be on the WTS’ permanent records! Personally, I couldn’t care less what some little religious organization has about me in its records. I mean, it’s not like any future employer is ever going to be looking into that when they check out your criminal record or your driving record, or whatever is relevant to offering you a job. As far as I’m concerned, the WTS can write my record in crayon or in real gold or etch it into a stone plaque. Whatever dossier those clowns have on anybody, it’s just something which exists within their own little world. It’s not like the WTS is going to make it publically searchable on Google or something, and the WTS always likes to keep all their records private and secret anyway. Heck, they even try to keep some of their publications secret, such as the elders’ manual, Pay Attention to Yourselves and All the Flock, and the Bethelite rulebook, Dwelling Together In Unity. So, I couldn’t imagine there being any kind of actual liability in the WTS keeping there little secret files on people. They can stick it up their ass as far as I care. Like, who cares?
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  New Caleb video uses fearmongering on children

  by Jonathan Drake in

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  check it out.

  literally the message is if you don't pay attention at the meetings you could die.

  how insane, i feel like this must wake some people up..

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  Actually, it’s this Web site (“http://www.jehovahs-witness.com”) and others like it that can save your life – save it from being wasted, and also save it literally by opening your eyes to the JW blood policy and how absolutely illogical and ridiculous it is. If everyone had learned the real facts behind the WTS operation right from the beginning by the information gathered by us “apostates,” it no doubt would have literally saved the lives of thousands of people, including children and babies, by their not following the reprehensible dictates of the WT’s power-hungry leaders.

  The new cyber glitter-glamour of the WTS will, at least for now, still continue to be able to maintain a certain level of indoctrination, because any repetitive type of regimen eventually alters one’s thinking and perception. It is said with regard to those suffering various addictions that they can’t simply think themselves into good action but, rather, they must act themselves into good thinking. But in the process of religious indoctrination, an imposed repetitive type of curriculum has the effect of altering one’s thinking and perception, eventually hijacking one’s very hope and motivation. That’s why a JW must wake up and get off that phony, ritualistic merry-go-round if he or she has a chance to recover from their mental and emotional dizziness.
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  What person/persons/group is behind the rebranding of Jehovahs Witnesses

  by truthseeker in

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  with the jw rebranding program in full swing, who do you think is behind all this?

  i'm not certain the governing body came up with these ideas.

  at least not the old guard which died off around 2009.. given the fairly recent articles in the kingdom ministry and watchtower about the dangers of the internet and having the latest gadget, this rebranding effort can't have been in the works for much more than three years.. the makeover is slick...very slick...and very clever.

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  SAHS

  All this new glittery cyber stuff is really just an attempt at rekindling some of the excitement of their old “glory days” of yesteryear, when people would say about their new public spectacles, “Ooh, that’s amazing! I wonder where that will go.” But all they’re really doing is just trying to clean up their image. It’s just like taking a dirty, germ-ridden lollipop up from the dirty, shitty ground and giving it a little pretty coat of icing – which reminds me of their own illustration in the book What Does the Bible Really Teach?, chapter 16, paragraph 12 (on page 159): “Suppose you saw a piece of candy lying in the gutter. Would you pick up that candy and eat it? Of course not! That candy is unclean. Like that candy, holidays may seem sweet, but they have been picked up from unclean places. To take a stand for true worship, we need to have a viewpoint like that of the prophet Isaiah, who told true worshipers: ‘Touch nothing unclean.’ – Isaiah 52:11.”
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  BRITAIN | Man 'glassed in the face' at Kingdom Hall of Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  news report.

  13 february 2015 .

  man 'glassed in the face' at kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses.

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  SAHS

  Crazy, vindictive people can be, and will be, absolutely anywhere. Crazy is as crazy does.
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  Morris Vindicated. Yoga Pants ARE Indecent

  by konceptual99 in

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  http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31447905.

  even those in "the world" (tm) recognise the indecent nature of this type of apparel.

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  “DJS”: “That’s the excuse used by the Islamists. Men cannot control themselves therefore women must cover up. . . . The Islamists believe a woman showing her ankle, in a lot of countries, is indecent and makes her deserving of rape, ridicule and molesting. People like them need to leave the planet. Forever. . . . Get out more. Lose your judgmental, self-righteous, moralistic desire to impose your own religious nonsense on the rest of us.”

  Here, here! That is really the crux of it. I think that it’s not about women somehow causing men’s desire to get out of control, but, rather, it’s really all about the innate defect of human character in which people in power feel a need to control and dominate others by imposing their own superstitious/religious/socio-political wishes on others.

  And, surprise, surprise – this Sharia Montana lawmaker guy, David “Doc” Moore, is a tight-ass republican! (Yes, pun intended.)
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  Morris Vindicated. Yoga Pants ARE Indecent

  by konceptual99 in

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  http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-31447905.

  even those in "the world" (tm) recognise the indecent nature of this type of apparel.

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  “dugout”: “Tell me is a bathing suit indecent?”

  That’s a very good, valid question. If that Sharia Montana lawmaker wants to make it actually illegal to wear Yoga pants / leggings / stretch trousers / jogging pants / skinny jeans, etc., then the law will have to also include as a crime of “indecent exposure” even the wearing of bathing suits at the beach and ballet leotards during public stage performances. So, they will have to ban Olympic downhill and cross-country skiing, bicycle racetrack events, swimming/diving competitions, etc. They will probably end up with minimum age restrictions at such events because of what this David “Doc” Moore guy views as indecent, shocking, and adults-only. (They will probably end up requiring proof-of-age ID to attend swimming competitions or public ballet performances as a spectator.)

  I swear to God, every day I see another petty and just plain stupid thing in the wonderful world of law. And I keep on asking myself the same question: What’s going to be next?