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  Opening the Eyes of JWs Wasting Their Lives Away in Prisons Because of...Nothing

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

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  is there any practical way to let these people see the light?

  has anything been already done to get the valuable information they need to them?

  if yes, what has been the outcome?.

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  “Esse quam videri”: “Why have no members of the Governing Body ever been imprisoned because of their faithful stand for righteousness?”

  Well, actually, Franklin (“Judge”) Rutherford, along with seven other Watch Tower executives, were convicted and imprisoned in the summer of 1918 on charges of sedition because of opposing military service in Rutherford’s publications. Unfortunately, however, due to some technicalities, nine months later they were released on bail and the charges ended up being dropped in May of 1920. Too bad the governing body was never charged with crimes against humanity from its blood and shunning policies, which have resulted in many, many needless deaths regarding blood and suicides over shunning!

  “Island Man”: “To learn that they’re in prison for a lie could utterly devastate them and lead to a mental breakdown or deep depression resulting in suicide.”

  Or, perhaps, hopefully, it could cause the brother or sister to eventually wake up and lead to him or her being motivated enough to seek taking legal action against the Watchtower organization for messing up his or her life by imprisonment and then flip-flopping on their policy regarding alternative military service (such as the case with our own dear Terry Walstrom).
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  Effect of reading here.

  by New day in

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  saomebody mentioned in a recent thread here i think that the more they read here the more they feel angry at the wt.

  personally, as an ex-elder (only resigned a few months ago) i feel that it is more like suddenly being on the outside looking in at a whole group of people playing parts.

  the zealous pioneers answering all the time.

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  People get lured and indoctrinated into cults such as the WTS, and before long, whether or not they realize it, they are sewed into their little patch of a quilt comprising a web of power and control, being forced to continue serving the egocentric needs of a handful of elite and privileged leaders.
  

  But what we have here at this Web forum is an opportunity to actively participate in our own process of clarity and healing, which is most enlightening, empowering, and therapeutic. And in that respect, I honestly believe that this process of discovery and true self-identity is something most positive and efficacious for us. Granted, our involvement here may resonate our feelings of betrayal and indignant anger, but this too is a healthy and necessary part of our journey in taking back our lives and finding ourselves. The alternative – which is to attempt at putting out of our minds our grief, frustration, and anger – can only result in bottling up our emotions until they suddenly take over any shred of logical reasoning and impede any constructive process of self-actualization and freedom to which we are certainly entitled and which is always within our grasp if only we would dare to exercise the most basic willingness to be true to ourselves.
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  Opening the Eyes of JWs Wasting Their Lives Away in Prisons Because of...Nothing

  by Tempest in a Teacup in

  1. jw
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  is there any practical way to let these people see the light?

  has anything been already done to get the valuable information they need to them?

  if yes, what has been the outcome?.

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  For everyone who hasn’t been unlucky enough to be put in prison (yet) but are at risk of going there because of their JW “conscientious objector” status, we can upload such valuable information with eye-opening warnings tailored specifically to such ones.

  But for those already in prisons, somebody should be finding out which inmates are there as JW “conscientious objectors” and writing letters directly to them. (Perhaps a group such as AAWA.) It would only be fair, because the WTS often encourages people to participate in their own letter-writing campaigns addressed to hard-to-reach not-at-homes and those in the media recently suffering some tragedy – so, therefore, we should be able to do the same; i.e., send letters directly to imprisoned JWs, in the hopes of at least causing them to question why they’re there.
  
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

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  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  “done4good”: “Who do you think appears to be more under WTS control, someone honest enough to state their view publicly, or someone who pretends to still be JW who does not believe any of it?”

  Well said!! My thoughts exactly.
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  New Marriage Arrangement Rumor?

  by Thoughtless in

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  so, i haven't lurked here in a long while however, i have been checking up more frequently and i saw that there is a rumor going around about getting barred from marriage if the brother not appointed by the time he is 23. is that true?

  if it is, i am so screwed haha.

  proud fader present within college.

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  “Hairtrigger”: “Elders all, have a ball! With little children in the hall.”

  LOL!
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  in the april 15th watchtowerstudy ed why is the article about how loving dissfellowshipping is curiously missing from simplified addition ?

  by poopie in

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  Oh, I think I just fixed it. My “Like” cancelled my “Dislike,” and then I gave you another “Like,” so the net result at this point should be a green positive number one. All is well.
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  in the april 15th watchtowerstudy ed why is the article about how loving dissfellowshipping is curiously missing from simplified addition ?

  by poopie in

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  To “nonjwspouse”: I meant to add a “Like” to your post but hit the “Dislike” thing by mistake. I gave you a “Like” after I realized my mistake. Please disregard the accidental “Dislike” (red number with minus sign). It’s harder to maneuver on a phone screen.
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
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  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  “steve2”: “It's worth noting too that the primary utility of a letter of disassociation is, not for the writer, but the local body of elders who will use it as evidence in support of the organization's shunning policies.”

  Actually, that would depend on the particular writer, as everyone has their own unique situation – and their life history, personality, emotional dynamics, needs, and what really drives him/her are also unique and deeply personal. As such, therefore, whatever net advantage and emotional efficacy which would, or would not, be gained by submitting a disassociation letter could only be judged on an individual basis.

  Surely for many, many folks, especially those having strong personal integrity, conviction, positive self-image, and maybe just a tiny amount of gumption and courage, the “primary utility” of a writing that letter would, indeed, be fulfilling the needs and interests of the writer! After all, it wouldn’t it be a most positive and deliberate step in a person’s recovery process?

  If it were me in “Garrett”’s particular situation, I would write that letter in a heartbeat – and I wouldn’t care less if it was published in the Wall Street Journal.
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  I'm Ready... Thank you

  by Garrett in

  1. jw
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  hey guys,.

  so, something amazing happened recently.

  i recently met with an old and very good friend of mine.

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  Submitting a formal disassociation letter and having them close your file is the better option because it puts an end to all of their nonsense for you. After all, it looks like you’ve made your choice 100%, and you don’t have anything to lose by a possible blackmail situation (lucky you!).

  Think of it this way: if you decided that you didn’t want anything more to do with, say, another publishing company (yes, the WT is really just a publishing company – one that’s run as a cult), such as a published magazine or newspaper, or a CD/DVD/book-of-the-month club; or, say, an Internet service provider, cellphone wireless carrier, bank, insurance company, security home monitoring company, etc.; then you would want to send a formal letter, perhaps by registered mail, to clearly ensure that that service is to be completely terminated forthwith, wouldn’t you? (I would.) Otherwise, you could still remain subject to receiving unsolicited and unwanted communications or offers/promotions/advertising – which would only be fruitless for them and annoying for you.
  
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  New Marriage Arrangement Rumor?

  by Thoughtless in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so, i haven't lurked here in a long while however, i have been checking up more frequently and i saw that there is a rumor going around about getting barred from marriage if the brother not appointed by the time he is 23. is that true?

  if it is, i am so screwed haha.

  proud fader present within college.

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  It’s obvious that the real consideration of the desirability of a person’s character (brother or sister) is only as it relates to the alignment with the Watchtower organization. So, if a brother is a real loser, has a grade five education, lives in a homeless shelter and makes a living begging for quarters, molests kids as a hobby, has a habit of slapping women whenever they say something he doesn’t particularly like, . . . . but he always has his Watchtower underlined/highlighted, submits a minimum “healthy” number of hours on his service time slip, seems to follow the petty rules (like no beards, no clinking glasses/toasting, no saying “happy birthday” or “happy Mother’s/Father’s Day), and (most importantly) doesn’t challenge or even question any teachings or policies of the Watchtower organization, . . . . then, well, he gets an official five-star rating from the local starched-shirt elders and circuit overseer.

  In other words, apparently what counts is, not the quality of his metal, but the color of his nose (i.e., brown!).