Posts by SAHS
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Crazy JW wields machete at New Orleans airport - shot - died because he refused blood on religious grounds
by Wild_Thing inhttp://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-machete-attack-new-orleans-airport-has-died-n327841.
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Those people at the airport who potentially could have been severe casualties or even fatalities really owe their life and limbs, literally, to the police officer, Lt. Heather Slyve, for her lifesaving services that day. That just reminded me: officer Slyve wouldn’t even be allowed to be a JW unless she quit her job because it involves carrying a gun. And if, say, she had already been a JW, she could be disfellowshipped if she decided to become a police officer after she was baptized. Kind of makes you think – this officer’s commendable and heroic actions would have just been looked down on by JWs because they were performed while working at a job which is considered a disfellowshipping offense because it requires bearing arms, but, on the other hand, the WTS demands all its members to let their children die because of their blood policy, which has resulted in the deaths of thousands of children, and somehow that is supposed to be okay according to the JWs. When you think of it, that’s most bizarre. -
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Crazy JW wields machete at New Orleans airport - shot - died because he refused blood on religious grounds
by Wild_Thing inhttp://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/suspect-machete-attack-new-orleans-airport-has-died-n327841.
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“7Starz”: “Was he doing airport witnessing?”
LOL!!
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Hello All!
by ihunt ini figure it's about time that i stop silently lurking around this community and actually add to the conversation, so here goes a first post.
a little about me-i was born "half-in", that is, my mother has been a witness for the entirety of my life whereas my father has never been.
i was an active part of the congregation (at least for what an unbaptized publisher can do) until i turned 18 and got an opportunity to attend a university (go school!).
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“ihunt”: “I don't think my father ever educated himself about Jehovah's Witnesses' control structure or about their doctrine, and its awful difficult to convince someone that their beliefs are incorrect when you are completely ignorant to their stance.”
Hi, “ihunt,” and welcome to the board! It’s always good to see so many more and more folks like yourself waking up and daring to poke their head out of the little prison of the Watchtower organization/corporation.
It would be great if you could educate your father in the many hangups and dangers of the Jehovah’s Witness “religion” without your JW mother even knowing. People in general – including most JWs themselves, by far – are unaware of the real facts and history of the Watchtower. If you could somehow show your father some of the things you have discovered about the WT corruption and obvious falsehoods and have him agree that he not let your mother know that it was you who showed those things about the WT to him, then maybe you could have a powerful ally in your father as someone who could bring those things to your mother’s attention. You could have him tell your mother that he just happened to come across such information completely by himself and that you had nothing to do with it. That way, perhaps your mother could be introduced to some important and eye-opening things regarding the real truth about the WT (the truth about the truth, or “TTATT” as we say) but you still wouldn’t get into any kind of trouble because your mother would just think that your father just decided to do his own research about the WT organization completely on his own.
And, of course, if your mother eventually did start to wake up, start researching and questioning herself, and decide to fade away from and leave the WT “religion,” then you would be completely in the clear and free – along with both your parents! Now, that would be the sweetest outcome of all. You never know. It’s definitely worth a shot. You could have your cake and eat it too, so to speak, if you play your cards right and everything works out right.
Take care, and the very best of luck to you. Having one parent already not in the cult, you’re completely half lucky already.
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Hello All!
by ihunt ini figure it's about time that i stop silently lurking around this community and actually add to the conversation, so here goes a first post.
a little about me-i was born "half-in", that is, my mother has been a witness for the entirety of my life whereas my father has never been.
i was an active part of the congregation (at least for what an unbaptized publisher can do) until i turned 18 and got an opportunity to attend a university (go school!).
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[REPOST] Memorial Non-Attendance: The Single Most Impactful TTATT Witness to Family and Friends
by AMNESIANO in(originally posted march, 2014)anyone who has awakened to ttatt and has conscientiously left the organization--especially a once-prominent, highly-regarded, studious believer from a prominent multi-generational tribe of jws-- after decades of devout, high-profile "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole watchtower bamboozle.
by this one concession s/he assigns him-/herself by every single jw to their handy and dimissive purgatory: the "spiritually-weak.".
nothing blasts a louder, clearer, and more deliberate message to the jws who personally knew you and those familiar with your jw bona fides that you are not merely "not making the meetings," "inactive," or "spiritually-weak," but that there is a conscientious reason you have rejected the entire watchtower society life than choosing to forego what they know you once believed to be jehovah's must-attend, one-and-only, holy/sacred event of the year for his people, the lord's evening meal.. you hand them the very justification they so relish to self-righteously label you as a "submarine witness" deserving of jehovah's, and more importantly, their judgement.
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“AMNESIANO”: “Anyone who has awakened to TTATT and has conscientiously left the organization . . . after decades of . . . "serve-us," who continues to put in an annual appearance at the Memorial thoroughly subverts and undermines, by this one act, any hope s/he may entertain that his/her departure will stir family or former friends to question the whole Watchtower bamboozle. . . . you squander your prize opportunity to nudge thinking ones to seriously ponder the possible reason for your shocking departure.”
This reminds me of how the Watchtower organization keeps telling its members that by being firm in upholding the disfellowshipping arrangement, it may be what is needed to shock a loved one back to his/her senses so as to repent and “return to Jehovah” (that is, the Watchtower organization). We (us “apostates”) can use that same kind of tactic to our advantage: Those of us who have stopped going to meetings, assemblies, conventions, and field service could make it a point of also not attending the annual Memorial to show that we ourselves are standing firm and resolute in our personal decision to completely move on from the Watchtower “religion,” in all its forms. And this might end up being just the very thing to shock, or “nudge,” our loved ones into finally questioning the Watchtower organization to enough of a degree that they too might see the light and come to their senses! It’s only fair, as it’s sort of like using one of the WT’s own tactics, that of shunning, only in our case we’re only shunning the WT organization instead of our family – which I think is more what it ought to be!
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Reasons for Leaving
by maksutov ini finally got my book finished.
it is available as a free ebook here: https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/527252 i'm sure the contents are familiar territory to most people here, but hopefully it will be of some use to those who are either thinking about joining or thinking about leaving.
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I was just thinking – anytime you happen to run into any JWS in the future, either at your door or in transit, whether they know you or not, you should ask for their email address. Get as many email addresses of JWs as you can and compile them into a little database. Then, email the complete contents of your free book to all of them at once. Who knows – you might end up doing a handful of them a real favor by causing them to take a good, hard, objective look at the Watchtower organization, and maybe even wake up and get out of it. That would be sweet, for sure! And certainly don’t forget to include anybody who you know has recently been called on by the JWs and whom you suspect might be thinking of checking them out. You could be saving them from wasting their life and maybe even from actual death from the blood transfusion policy, either themselves or someone in their family.
The JWs are always “warning” people about “Armageddon,” or at least so they think – but someone’s gotta warn unsuspecting people about the JWs!
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"Why I don't like people coming to my door, selling religion"
by Captain Schmideo2 inthis is from a blog, "news from me" that i read fairly regularly.
mark evanier is, among other things, a comic book writer (co-writer for "groo-the wanderer), a television writer, a great raconteur, and was a close person friend of jack kirby, one of the world's greatest comic book artists.he got an email from a jw trying to explain why they come to his door.evanier's answer is well thought out, and should explain to even the densest j-dub why people really don't like being bothered.
maybe his correspondent will take it to heart, but probably not.
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Or, you could order one of those new little Sparlock figurines to hang on the outside as a “good-luck” charm to keep the JWs away. (That, and a cross with some garlic bulbs.) -
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Gifts from my old hall..
by Garrett inhey guys,.
so, it seems the hall i used to attend before my latest one got to hearing that i "disappeared".
so today, i went to the post office to pick up a package.... i decided to try to face reality and open it... what i found were multiple letters and wrapped gifts.
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You are entitled to your own personal way of handling the situation, and I most certainly respect and applaud your personal integrity. As far as the sender(s) of the package go, he/she/they have no idea that you just threw everything out, and would probably not assume such. If you really wanted to make a definite statement, one thing you could have done was to simply have it mailed back marked “RETURN TO SENDER.” That would have given them the message that you are ready to just move on with your life toward bigger and better pastures. That would have elegantly and poignantly expressed more than any words. But, of course, you no doubt did what was really in your best interests if you acted on yout gut feeling. Whatever the case, you can take this as confirmation of your empowerment to begin a new direction in your life – one where you’re free to follow your own heart. -
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May KM Highlight 1/Cong baptized
by Gayle inat 2014 conventions (regional?
) 14,039 baptized.
outstanding for 13,871 congs!
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And don’t forget about all those taking part in the glorious mass exodus out the back door of the organization. Only about 33% of born-ins remain in the church/cult. Not to mention all those other folks getting disfellowshipped (for stupid things like saying “happy birthday,” toasting and clinking glasses, buying a lottery ticket, etc.) and disassociating themselves. That completely lets out the precious little air in their tire that was there to begin with, especially in Internet-equipped countries. Now, there’s an ever-growing population even within third-world lands such as Africa and India which is becoming connected to the Internet. Pretty soon, you could go door to door – or grass hut to grass hut – in Timbuktu, Africa, and they will say, “Oh, you people! No thanks. I’ve heard all about your organization online. Now f^€# off before I get my machete!” -
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ABCNews Nightline: Segment on JW absuse cases here......
by WingCommander inhere is the segment on the conti abuse case in california and jehovah's witness's response as reported on by the abcnews nightline broadcast which was shown early this morning.
it really displays some absolutely shocking behavior from not only her abuser and his (supportive) wife, but also the jw attorneys and elders via video.
i am just blown away by the audacity displayed by these monsters.. we can now understand why governing body member stephen lett slipped in his comments a couple of weeks ago about "untrue reports of child abuse" in one of his talks which can viewed on the cult's website.
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Certainly pedophiles are apt to be found in any religion or organization, as there are some specific character defects common to those types of perpetrators. (I’m no psychologist, by any means, but it would seem that whatever is inside their noggins doesn’t quite tick right.) However, the thing that’s really so galling about the JWs is that they try to protect their precious WT organization at all costs because they believe it to be so infinitely and exclusively superior in all respects to anything else in the “world.” (They’re the one-and-only representative and mouthpiece for Almighty God, don’t you know! . . . . Good grief. Well, it’s actually the WT organization that catapulted me into embracing evolution.)