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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  No, as far as things like sexual activity goes, there actually never was a better time for kids (more open access to and knowledge of birth control, vaccines for some STDs, etc.). Teens have always had sex throughout history and always will.

  You missed the whole point of what I was saying. Better time for kids? I don't agree with you about it being better. There is better education in some places and more availabilit of birth control in some places, but kids are kids. I remember someone arguing recently that you cannot get STDs from oral sex. This person went through sex ed at high school. Evidently said kid wasn't listening or believes other kids over his instructors.

  But the point is that we don't provide a world where kids are encouraged to be age appropriate. While it is true that kids have always had sexual curiosity and some did engage in varying levels of experimentation, they weren't always hyper sexualized by the media. Media is modern thing anyway. The numbers of kids doing risky things has risen to new heights, thanks to being encouraged and fanned on by the entertainment and video game industry. Then they have smart phones, digital cameras, webcams, etc. I grew up in the 60s and 70s. I hung out with the wilder bunch of hippies at school. None of the kids I knew were blatant about sex and none of them flashed naked pics of each other. We did have poloroid technology then, but there were never any scandals about XXX photos. Maybe here and there around the earth there were some teenagers involved in that, but it wasn't going on in Atlanta, GA or any of the other places I went.
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  The course they took says more about their shepherding ethic than about the young girl.

  Again, as we have all sadly learned, their concern is only what they look like to the outside world. They do not care how unloving they come across to this girl, her family or the congregation.
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  Yet I am genuniely disturbed that, if this child's details weren't already plastered all over universal porn sites, this forum is kind of inadvertently providing another avenue to invade this child's putative privacy. A conundrum, if ever there was one.

  At least here, the young lady is anonymous. And most of the posts have been in her favor.

  I'm not assuming any details. For all we know she went to the elders about it, on her own. It's possible her parents found it on her phone or on their computer and took it to the elders, out of misguided allegience to the org. I know people who have found pictures on the computer from their teenaged kids, involving boy or girlfriends and have panicked because it is illegal for the kids themselves to have the pictures or give the pictures or videos. Then there it is on the parent's computer or the child's phone, child pornography. I think most parents would just delete the pictures and talk with the kids about it. If it is already public though, then the horses are out of the barn, doesn't help to close the door.

  Then it could have been a local scandal. I was listening to NPR this weekend about the scandal in one town where some guys made a page to upload Instagram pornographic pictures of unsuspecting people. The authorities began to investigate this and found the practice of sharing nude photos to be widespread in the town. Now the focus is on finding the people who put the page up with the naked pictures and prosecuting them, rather than the teenagers whose pictures were posted. It was pointed out that a few of the girls knew their pictures would be posted.
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  Along with Still Totally ADD, I'll ad that it's is proven that the front part of your brain, the part that governs decision making, is not fully developed until you are at least 25. When this was discovered, here in the USA, the age at which a person can receive the death penality has been raised.

  Along with Jhine, christening babies or young children is not equal to JW baptism. It is not for the same purpose at all. And the children have to make the decision, after months or a year of preparation, to be confirmed into a church. Nearly all churches do not practice shunning. When my grandson decided he was an atheist, the Episcopal Church still welcomed him with open arms. He went along on their trips to Ohio to ride the roller coasters. He went along with the youth group on mission trips, which involved reparing the homes of the elderly and the poor. He also volunteered to cook for and feed the homeless on Sunday mornings. He went to the weekly dinner and meetings for his youth group and was treated as he always had been. To this day he has all kinds of friends from the church on his facebook. They do not unfriend him when he posts about anarchy or atheism. He knows they love him. He loves them, too.
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  Shame of what she has done. Hmm. Kids, driven by incredible hormones and sexual curiosity, with smart phones. Kids who are told by TV, the movie industry and the music they listen to that teenagers ought to be thinking of how and when they should be losing their virginity and partying like adults. Shame of what she has done? No, it's the the adults who have allowed teenagers to be indoctrinated into this wildly sexual world, too young, that have done the shameful thing.

  I am not for being prudish, don't get me wrong. The thing is that children and teenagers deserve a world where they can be age appropriate. I'm thinking it was easier when kids were watching Shirley Temple and the Our Gang Comdies/The Little Rascals and listening to the music their parents did. I love rock and roll and loved my childhood during the 60s and 70s. It wasn't so bad then as it is today for kids.

  Kids are taking naked pictures of themselves, with their phones, and sending them to each other.
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  a young 14 year old girl was disfellowshipped in my former congregation last week

  by alexandre in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  a baptized girl from my former cong.

  was expelled out because she participated in more than one porn videos with classmates in the school and theses videos became public.

  she is 14 years old and grew up as witnesses.but anybody knows she had many boyfriends and she-, but that thing was unbelievable!

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  FlyingHighNow

  Wake up people, this is what a lot of kids are doing these days.

  I would not allow my daughter to be baptized. I feel like kids need our super support when they end up in trouble. They don't need to be shunned.
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  A question for my friends in the USA about cowboys.

  by punkofnice in

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  as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.

  later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.

  we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.

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  This has all been to do with mental health issues and my adult kids. Shoot me now!

  So sorry to hear this, Punk.I hope this is going to pass soon for you and your kids.

  I can relate. I only have two kids and they are both adults who live with mental illness. Maybe the grandchildren will fair better. This is such a tought world right now.
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  A question for my friends in the USA about cowboys.

  by punkofnice in

  1. social
  2. current

  as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.

  later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.

  we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.

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  FlyingHighNow

  I visited the saloon where Wild Bill Hickok was shot down holding aces and eights.

  Gregor, that is cool. Wild Bill Hickok also stayed at the St. James Hotel I posted about. Thanks for the picture of Deadwood and your experiences there:

  Deadwood

  (By Eric Taylor)
  
  Well, the good times scratched a laugh
  From the lungs of the young men
  In a Deadwood saloon, South Dakota afternoon
  And the old ones by the door
  With their heads on their chests,
  They told lies about whiskey on a womans breath
  
  Yes, and some tell the story of young Mickey Free
  Who lost an eye to a buck deer in the Tongue River Valley
  Oh and some tell the story of California Joe
  Who sent word through the Black Hills
  There was a mountain of gold
  
  [Chorus:]
  And the gold she lay cold in their pockets
  And the sun she sets down on the trees
  And they thank the Lord
  For the land that they live in
  Where the white man does as he pleases
  
  Some flat-shoed fool from the East comes a-runnin'
  With some news that he'd read in some St. Joseph paper
  And it was "Drinks all around" cause the news he was tellin'
  Was the one they called Crazy
  Has been caught and been dealt with
  
  And the Easterner he read the news from the paper
  And the old ones moved closer so's they could hear better
  "Well it says here that Crazy Horse
  Was killed while trying to escape,
  And that was some time last September,
  It don't give the exact date"
  
  [Chorus]
  
  Where the white man does as he pleases
  
  Then the talk turned back to whiskey and women
  And cold nights on the plains, Lord
  And fightin' them indians
  And the Easterner he says he'll have one more
  'fore he goes
  He gives the paper to the Crow boy
  Who sweeps up the floor
  
  [Chorus]
  
  Where the white man does as he pleases
  Where the white man does as he pleases
  As he wants to, as he pleases
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  A question for my friends in the USA about cowboys.

  by punkofnice in

  1. social
  2. current

  as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.

  later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.

  we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Piz, you will probably love that song I posted about Deadwood and the death of Crazy Horse.
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  A question for my friends in the USA about cowboys.

  by punkofnice in

  1. social
  2. current

  as a kid growing up in the uk we used to play 'cowboys and indians' and watch high chaparal and bonanza along with other cowboy films.

  later, in the 70's kung fu would be shown with caine going through the 'old west'.

  we even had a chocolate bar that was marketed with a 'cowboy' theme...milky bar.. as far as i know the 'wild west' as shown on tvdidn't actually exist.. are there people that believe it did?.

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  FlyingHighNow

  Cimarron, NM is a tiny town with a BIG history. There is a hotel there, now called the St. James, that still has bullet holes from gunfights. And the fighters, outlaws and lawmen were famous:

  http://centerofthewest.org/2014/07/30/buffalo-bill-st-james-hotel-cimarron-new-mexico/

  “it was a favored place for lawmen, outlaws, and everyone in between"

  Then:

  

  Modern times:

  

  Here is one of the bullet holes, still in the ceiling of what was the saloon, but is now the dining room:

  "Twenty-two bullet holes still reside in the saloon’s tin ceiling, attesting to the rowdiness of the place. A common question asked was: “Who was killed at Lambert’s(St. James) last night?”

  

  

  Part of the lobby

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  There are fourteen rooms named for the outlaws, lawmen and celebrities that used them:

  The Jesse James room

  

  The Pancho Griogo room:

  

  The Buffalo Bill Cody room:

  

  Annie Oakley suite

  It is said that Buffalo Bill Cody bought tricycles for the town children, so they could ride up and down the porch of the hotel. It is also said that he came up with his plans for his famed Wild West Show, while a guest at the St. James Hotel

  Here is a nice page about both the St. James Hotel and the Taos Pueblo, where the Red Willow (Taos Pueblo's moder Indian population) people live to this day:

  https://darlenefoster.wordpress.com/category/history/