What if one were to, instead of disassociating, submit a letter of "voluntary permanent inactivity"?
It's not "disassociation", so what can they do? They don't consider inactive people the same as disassociated or disfellowshipped ones.It's an interesting thought. I suspect that such a person might be closely watched though for any signs of beviour that might warrant disfellowshipping.
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Disassociation experiences please
by UnshackleTheChains inhi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
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Disassociation experiences please
by UnshackleTheChains inhi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
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snugglebunny
Back in the day disassociation wasn't an option. You wanted out and for it to be a permanent goodbye without shepherding calls or elder "drop ins", then disfellowshipping was the only route to take.
I'd been tempted to call it a day for quite a while. My JW parents were of the disapproving type no matter what I did, so they were never going to be sorely missed apart from the biological connection. Family visits were spent mainly discussing my many failings and how I should be doing much more of this or that. My then wife was totally nuts and also quite violent, something for which elders frequently counselled me - for allowing her to behave in such an unseemly manner.
Most importantly though was that I'd begun to stop believing. Despite one or two half-hearted attempts to rally round, I eventually admitted to myself that I just didn't enjoy witness activities one little bit. Ministry work, meetings, taking Bible studies etc etc, I would just watch the clock until it was time to go home.
There were a number of things occurred for which I could have been disfellowshipped. Eventually I was booted for associating with persons who had been disfellowshipped previously.
My life improved immeasurably within a year or two of my leaving. I was tricky for a while, but I hung on in there, refused to wear a victim hat and sorted my life out for the better.
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A big shout out to the NHS
by moley inlast week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
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A big shout out to the NHS
by moley inlast week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
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Yes indeed! The NHS saved my life. 3 operations within a 2 year period. It didn't cost me a single penny.
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Brexit Rollercoaster Grinding to a Halt
by The Fall Guy inuk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.
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regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..
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Brexiteers are stupid ignorant xenophobic morons..aren't they?
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The Public Talks
by Charles Gillette ini remember when i use to give a number of public talks.
i had a binder with every public talk listed by number in it.
i don't have it anymore.. when i did the fade in 2002 after 33 years a slave since 1969. i destroyed all my watchtower materials and i had a lot.
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I gave my first public talk at age 17. The society provided just a one-page outline of suggested material and a few Scriptures. So to fill an hour a person had to do a lot of research of one's own. I discovered that I was a fairly natural speaker and, TBH, really got off on the sense of power that comes from holding an audience. I would even use stories from Bonanza to illustrate principles of right and wrong.
In later years I used what I had learned about public speaking to lecture at sales conferences. Last year I was best man at my brother's marriage and managed to have the entire reception rolling in the aisles. "It is indeed a great privilege to finally be asked to be best man at one of Trevor's weddings..."
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Brexit Rollercoaster Grinding to a Halt
by The Fall Guy inuk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.
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regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..
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Just go and be done. Tell the EU to whistle for their £39 BILLION. They've done very well out of us so far. Time to move on.
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Movies that make you cry?
by new boy inthere have been many but i had a total melt down at the end of sophie's choice.
i hadn't cried in years before i saw that movie in in 1982. i was still very much a jw at the time.
i have no idea where the pain and sorrow came from, maybe it was the fact there are things people have gone through that we have defied all reason logic.
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Still gets me every time..
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Favorite Classical Pieces, Sonatas, Concertos, Etudes etc...
by blondie in... filling in holes in my cds.
give me composer, work, key if possible.
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You need a pretty good set of bass speakers to really appreciate this by Widor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKejfYzB3ak
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Getting Remarried after a spouses death & then they are resurrected after Armageddon ?
by LOLS inhi guys .
i was wondering about the above , if a jw is allowed to remarry if a spouse has died, then what happens when they are resurrected at armageddon, do u land up with two wives/husbands ,,,,,,, makes no sense to me & can the jw's be so dumb not to think about this or have i got it wrong ?
and i will not be asking my uber jw husband , don't have the energy.. thanks.
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How did your mom get even a single proposal, let alone four? I thought JW's only ever date with the intention of marrying. And if she wasn't dating anyone, then I have another question: who the heck proposes marriage to someone they've never even been on ONE date with?
She was a bonny woman. Been in umpteen congos, well-known need is greaters and also well known in bethel circles from when our dad was alive. A legendary pair. Plus frequent hosts of get-togethers, over a dozen converts between them. Social butterflies.