What, you don't have Harleys in the UK?
Yeah but they get sucked into the carbs of our big Triumphs and clog up the works..
take a look at this, fellow forum members .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5d7eoodv3e .
f**king brilliant xd.
thoughts?.
What, you don't have Harleys in the UK?
Yeah but they get sucked into the carbs of our big Triumphs and clog up the works..
i’m sure like many of you that use this forum i sometimes think back over the years as a jw and recall the funny, the strange and then the downright bizarre things that happened within the organisation.
i grew up and settled in a densely jw populated area of manchester which was filled with the usual jw drama and nonsense.. if you were from the area and have any memories or stories please post them here.. one of the things i clearly recall (and i’m sure this wasn’t just a manchester jw thing) was the massive drinking culture within the jw community.
i didn’t really pick up on it until i started questioning things but looking back i can remember my parents taking about an elder in the hall that drank a can of beer before going to the thursday meeting.
My JW parents, who were extraordinarily devout, were great drinkers. My dad would visit the pub most nights, often getting into alcohol fuelled debates with some of the regulars, and even counted the time. He spoke twice to someone and that was a Return visit duly logged onto his weekly time report.
At home there was one of those optic devices screwed to the wall that dispensed a measured amount of whisky when a glass was pushed up against it.
Sometimes, when my dad was keen on getting me to "come to my senses", he'd take me to the Robin Hood in Ironbridge for a friendly chat. His tipple was 2 Gold Label barley wines in a pint glass with a Southern Comfort chaser. It wasn't a cheap night...
hi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
What if one were to, instead of disassociating, submit a letter of "voluntary permanent inactivity"?
It's not "disassociation", so what can they do? They don't consider inactive people the same as disassociated or disfellowshipped ones.
It's an interesting thought. I suspect that such a person might be closely watched though for any signs of beviour that might warrant disfellowshipping.
hi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
Back in the day disassociation wasn't an option. You wanted out and for it to be a permanent goodbye without shepherding calls or elder "drop ins", then disfellowshipping was the only route to take.
I'd been tempted to call it a day for quite a while. My JW parents were of the disapproving type no matter what I did, so they were never going to be sorely missed apart from the biological connection. Family visits were spent mainly discussing my many failings and how I should be doing much more of this or that. My then wife was totally nuts and also quite violent, something for which elders frequently counselled me - for allowing her to behave in such an unseemly manner.
Most importantly though was that I'd begun to stop believing. Despite one or two half-hearted attempts to rally round, I eventually admitted to myself that I just didn't enjoy witness activities one little bit. Ministry work, meetings, taking Bible studies etc etc, I would just watch the clock until it was time to go home.
There were a number of things occurred for which I could have been disfellowshipped. Eventually I was booted for associating with persons who had been disfellowshipped previously.
My life improved immeasurably within a year or two of my leaving. I was tricky for a while, but I hung on in there, refused to wear a victim hat and sorted my life out for the better.
last week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
last week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
Yes indeed! The NHS saved my life. 3 operations within a 2 year period. It didn't cost me a single penny.
uk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.
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regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..
Brexiteers are stupid ignorant xenophobic morons..aren't they?
i remember when i use to give a number of public talks.
i had a binder with every public talk listed by number in it.
i don't have it anymore.. when i did the fade in 2002 after 33 years a slave since 1969. i destroyed all my watchtower materials and i had a lot.
I gave my first public talk at age 17. The society provided just a one-page outline of suggested material and a few Scriptures. So to fill an hour a person had to do a lot of research of one's own. I discovered that I was a fairly natural speaker and, TBH, really got off on the sense of power that comes from holding an audience. I would even use stories from Bonanza to illustrate principles of right and wrong.
In later years I used what I had learned about public speaking to lecture at sales conferences. Last year I was best man at my brother's marriage and managed to have the entire reception rolling in the aisles. "It is indeed a great privilege to finally be asked to be best man at one of Trevor's weddings..."
uk prime minister could be out of her job within hours.
.
regardless, another referendum on stay/leave looks very likely - now that people can see what the real consequences of a divorce from the eu would be..
Just go and be done. Tell the EU to whistle for their £39 BILLION. They've done very well out of us so far. Time to move on.
there have been many but i had a total melt down at the end of sophie's choice.
i hadn't cried in years before i saw that movie in in 1982. i was still very much a jw at the time.
i have no idea where the pain and sorrow came from, maybe it was the fact there are things people have gone through that we have defied all reason logic.
Still gets me every time..