The only thing that would make me go back is a lobotomy.
Is this the appropriate time to mention that I'd rather have a bottle in front me than a frontal lobotomy?
i was just wondering , why would my jw husband return to been a full blown baptized jw after 20 years of fading?.
he has spent 20 years of his life been a worldly person , with a worldly wife & kids & worldly friends .... to joining the borg full time , to getting baptized , to getting new brothers & sisters .... and to writing off most of his worldly friends (some his known his whole life ) , to trying to convince me & our children how wonderful this org is ......and anyone else who will listen :(.
has anyone ever experienced this ...... oh and he seems to be in it 110% and no-one can say anything about this crazy org or show him proof that it all bs...... his such a clever independent , successful guy , why on earth would he go back to this , after been out for so many years & change into this domineering , opinionated fool ..... oh and his entire family also went back ... father , mother , brother & sister .
The only thing that would make me go back is a lobotomy.
Is this the appropriate time to mention that I'd rather have a bottle in front me than a frontal lobotomy?
i was just wondering , why would my jw husband return to been a full blown baptized jw after 20 years of fading?.
he has spent 20 years of his life been a worldly person , with a worldly wife & kids & worldly friends .... to joining the borg full time , to getting baptized , to getting new brothers & sisters .... and to writing off most of his worldly friends (some his known his whole life ) , to trying to convince me & our children how wonderful this org is ......and anyone else who will listen :(.
has anyone ever experienced this ...... oh and he seems to be in it 110% and no-one can say anything about this crazy org or show him proof that it all bs...... his such a clever independent , successful guy , why on earth would he go back to this , after been out for so many years & change into this domineering , opinionated fool ..... oh and his entire family also went back ... father , mother , brother & sister .
Back in the day, a chappie from the Maidenhead congregation related a tale of a Para returning to the religion of his childhood. He'd left the dubbies in his teens, joined the Army, eventually made Para when, many years later, he was descending on a practice jump and was overwhelmed by a desire to "return to Jehovah".
so our family fade is well under way.
we changed congregations as regular attenders and left in good standing with those giving hugs and kisses simply knowing we "needed a change".
we moved to a neighboring congregation that is out of our original region knowing we would see no one and the two boe's wouldn't really have immediate dealings.
"I'm just trying to do what's right. I've prayed about it and I feel that I'm gaining some spiritual insights. For the moment I'm taking a walk through what was once a spiritual wilderness and coming out of it a better person. I'll know when the time is right for me to associate once again and hopefully share my experiences".
i remember when my faith left me.
i used to enjoy meetings and used to participate but then all of a sudden i was finding myself bored shitless at meetings.
i was taken off the theocratic ministry school for not attending when i was due to give a talk and not long after did something naughty and got disfellowshiped.
If you want to know what the 1975 fear-mongering was like, listen to Mark Carney doing his stuff on brexit. Just like the JW's, he hasn't got anything right yet. And he's the governor of the Bank of England.
take a look at this, fellow forum members .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b5d7eoodv3e .
f**king brilliant xd.
thoughts?.
What, you don't have Harleys in the UK?
Yeah but they get sucked into the carbs of our big Triumphs and clog up the works..
i’m sure like many of you that use this forum i sometimes think back over the years as a jw and recall the funny, the strange and then the downright bizarre things that happened within the organisation.
i grew up and settled in a densely jw populated area of manchester which was filled with the usual jw drama and nonsense.. if you were from the area and have any memories or stories please post them here.. one of the things i clearly recall (and i’m sure this wasn’t just a manchester jw thing) was the massive drinking culture within the jw community.
i didn’t really pick up on it until i started questioning things but looking back i can remember my parents taking about an elder in the hall that drank a can of beer before going to the thursday meeting.
My JW parents, who were extraordinarily devout, were great drinkers. My dad would visit the pub most nights, often getting into alcohol fuelled debates with some of the regulars, and even counted the time. He spoke twice to someone and that was a Return visit duly logged onto his weekly time report.
At home there was one of those optic devices screwed to the wall that dispensed a measured amount of whisky when a glass was pushed up against it.
Sometimes, when my dad was keen on getting me to "come to my senses", he'd take me to the Robin Hood in Ironbridge for a friendly chat. His tipple was 2 Gold Label barley wines in a pint glass with a Southern Comfort chaser. It wasn't a cheap night...
hi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
What if one were to, instead of disassociating, submit a letter of "voluntary permanent inactivity"?
It's not "disassociation", so what can they do? They don't consider inactive people the same as disassociated or disfellowshipped ones.
It's an interesting thought. I suspect that such a person might be closely watched though for any signs of beviour that might warrant disfellowshipping.
hi everyone.. i would love to collate the experiences of those who decided to disassociate.
the reason i am asking this question is that i have been in turmoil for a very long time as to whether i remain a fader or whether to bring closure on my membership with the watchtower organisation.. it is for this reason i would like to read about some of the experiences of those on this forum who went down the route of disassociation.
if could answer the following.
Back in the day disassociation wasn't an option. You wanted out and for it to be a permanent goodbye without shepherding calls or elder "drop ins", then disfellowshipping was the only route to take.
I'd been tempted to call it a day for quite a while. My JW parents were of the disapproving type no matter what I did, so they were never going to be sorely missed apart from the biological connection. Family visits were spent mainly discussing my many failings and how I should be doing much more of this or that. My then wife was totally nuts and also quite violent, something for which elders frequently counselled me - for allowing her to behave in such an unseemly manner.
Most importantly though was that I'd begun to stop believing. Despite one or two half-hearted attempts to rally round, I eventually admitted to myself that I just didn't enjoy witness activities one little bit. Ministry work, meetings, taking Bible studies etc etc, I would just watch the clock until it was time to go home.
There were a number of things occurred for which I could have been disfellowshipped. Eventually I was booted for associating with persons who had been disfellowshipped previously.
My life improved immeasurably within a year or two of my leaving. I was tricky for a while, but I hung on in there, refused to wear a victim hat and sorted my life out for the better.
last week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
last week i suffered two heart attacks, first one occurred while i was at home, phoned for an ambulance which promptly arrived and whisked me off too hospital, docs decided i needed a stent and during the angioplasty i had a massive heart attack according to the doc that did it.
i was unaware as i was out.
but what i want to say is what an amazing organisation the nhs is.
Yes indeed! The NHS saved my life. 3 operations within a 2 year period. It didn't cost me a single penny.