Posts by OrphanCrow

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Washington Post in US: Jehovah's Witnesses Face Child Sex Abuse Investigation in Australia

by cultBgone in

it's finally hit mainstream media in the us!

let's hope some savvy investigative journalists see a pulitzer for opening up this story to cover the us and worldwide cases.. jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/.

everyone who is able should hurry up and post comments on their website as the pro-jw forces have rallied and are trying to squash this as libel.

OrphanCrow

Vidiot: You mean "when"...
...or do you a betting girl?

Lol! I am trying to be nice. It's a skill that I have been told I lack at times and I need a little practice in diplomacy.

Nope. I'm not gonna bet. I don't like the odds. ;p

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Washington Post in US: Jehovah's Witnesses Face Child Sex Abuse Investigation in Australia

by cultBgone in

it's finally hit mainstream media in the us!

let's hope some savvy investigative journalists see a pulitzer for opening up this story to cover the us and worldwide cases.. jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/.

everyone who is able should hurry up and post comments on their website as the pro-jw forces have rallied and are trying to squash this as libel.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: From the WT? Are you f**king kidding me???
They're gonna fight this tooth and nail.

True enough. I was making the statement in general, refering to all the institutions that took part in the Commission, not just the JWs.

Huh. If the WTS digs in their heels and the rest of the other institutions step up to the plate in giving redress, it will look very bad for the WTS.

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Washington Post in US: Jehovah's Witnesses Face Child Sex Abuse Investigation in Australia

by cultBgone in

it's finally hit mainstream media in the us!

let's hope some savvy investigative journalists see a pulitzer for opening up this story to cover the us and worldwide cases.. jehovahs-witnesses-face-child-sex-abuse-investigation-in-australia/2015/08/14/.

everyone who is able should hurry up and post comments on their website as the pro-jw forces have rallied and are trying to squash this as libel.

OrphanCrow

Gayle: What the government does in 2017 can only be guessed. The WT. has time to collect a lot of donations and sell Kingdom Halls by then.

It wouldn't surprise me if redress payments are started before the final report is ready. In Canada, when the Residential Schools were being investigated, the reconciliation payments for residential school survivors were put in place long before the final Truth and Reconciliation report was released.

I don't know if Australia has plans to start the redress right away, but I did read an article that concerned another institution (Catholic, I think) that was already preparing to make payouts. (I have been looking for the article...can't find it yet!...I will post it when I do).

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The only way to know God exists!

by iconoclastic in

do everything as god would do if he were present here.

this will attract his attention, and you will experience his invisible hands blessing everything you do, giving you results more than what you sowed.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------.

hence put to the test the above, and then you can make really authentic comments!.

OrphanCrow

The one who created and gave us trees as our guiding principle.

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Canadian Bethel among the secretive charities

by gone for good in

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2011/11/15/audit_of_charities_encounters_resistance.html.

interesting canadian information on popular charities.

regarding the "cushion" factor that mentions how many years these charities could continue to function without a single donation remember that the wt brranches download all proceeds directly to new york.. classic cult conduct in handling donated fundswith minimal transparency.

OrphanCrow

Jwleaks, I don't think that what you posted is 'the' Financial report at all - it looks like a page from a financial audit that states the changes in fund balances for the charity.

What is your source?

For a detailed financial report for the Canadian Branch, go to this thread here:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on

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Implications of gay marriage ruling

by Rattigan350 in

while many think that the ruling is good for the gays and their response is: how does that affect your marriage; then on the other side the religious people cry god and sinners.

but both are missing the forest through the trees.. the problem with the ruling is that which is discussed here so many times.

five unelected federal officials decided on policy for the whole country, running roughshod over every democratic principle.

OrphanCrow

VI: Who would decide child custody cases and divorce disputes over property?

Uummmm....church elders? I guess?

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my 2cents on the reason for keeping tabs on inactive

by poopie in

jw
friends

i think there is.

2 schools of thoght on the reasons why they want records on inactive school 1.round this loose ends up we have to many fadeing and getting amnesty we want to keep tabs on them because they have influence on those still active so tighten up no loopholes make them pay for leaving the organization, school2.these are sincerely.

intrested in helping those who hate our guts because we treated them in an unloveing way or they feel your just are a little stupid and let the loveing shepards help you so it is intresting i also think the circuit ovetseers and yes men have hoodwinked the gb into thinking everthing is just dandy in spirtual paradise these reasons why some ate inactive will be eye opening to some of the gb and hopefully they will see people as fellow humans and not stupid little chilldren that need a human master.

OrphanCrow

I think that they are trying to dissasociate themselves from those who aren't under their control. That would be why they need names and such.

There has been so much negative publicity concerning JW child abuse and other nefarious matteres, that they want to assertively say "Hey! He is NOT a JW! We talked to him last week - see...he is not one of us."

The WTS is cutting ties with anyone who could potentially get in some kind of trouble that would get media attention.

I think they are "cleaning" so they can draw a clear line between the JW who got charged with child rape and the bad guy who did it because he wasn't a JW.

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Update on Royal Commission - "Child sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimony"

by OrphanCrow in

newcastle heraldchild sex abuse inquiry hears 4000th testimonyby joanne mccarthy sept. 10, 2015, 10:30 p.mthe royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse held its 4000th private hearing in a jail in august as britain followed australias lead in tackling child sexual abuse.the royal commission heard evidence on august 19 from a prisoner who had been sexually abused as a child.in britain, the head of its newly established independent inquiry into child sexual abuse praised the remarkable response to the australian commission.in a speech to australian church leaders on thursday, royal commissioner justice peter mcclellan said he was pleased the british inquiry would closely follow successful australian arrangements.more than 1500 people were waiting for a private hearing and about 40 people a week requested a private hearing, justice mcclellan said.the royal commission has received 16,361 allegations involving 3566 institutions since it was established in november 2012 following the newcastle heralds shine the light campaign for a royal commission into historic child sexual abuse.more than 7000 allegations relate to religious institutions, with 4418 against the catholic church, and more than 3600 against government institutions.allegations against other churches are: anglican, 871; uniting church, 411; presbyterian, 123; methodist, 69; salvation army, 519; jehovahs witnesses, 137; jewish, 80; baptist, 59; seventh day adventist, 56; australian christian churches, 50; lutheran, 32; brethren, 30; mormon, 18; coptic orthodox, 4; and greek orthodox, 2.justice mcclellan said the royal commission had referred 727 matters to police to investigate with a view to prosecuting alleged offenders.in the past few weeks, the royal commission had reported to the federal government on a national redress scheme for victims of abuse.it was clear that time limits presented a considerable, and sometimes an insurmountable, burden for survivors wishing to commence civil proceedings against child sex offenders and institutions, he said.the royal commission should also mark the end of the societal norm that children should be seen but not heard, he said.when the required silence of the child was accompanied by an unquestioning belief by adults in the integrity of the carer ... the power imbalance was entrenched to the inevitable detriment of many children, justice mcclellan said.we must ensure that in the future the institution does not silence the child.

OrphanCrow

Suzann: I was just curious as to why it says there were 137 allegations against JW's when we know there are over 1000 perpetrators?

The number of perpetrators is the number in the WTS files that the Commission subpoened.

The 137 allegations is the number of victims that have given testimony. The Commission doesn't subpoena victim testimony. It is voluntary. 137 victims have come forward to give statements to the Commission.

I think that is what the 137 means...

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Thinking about taking my fiance to a meeting.. going as a "worldly person"

by OneStepOut93 in

i may take my fiance to a meeting.

give them fake names and just see how my fiance reacts.

he's been curious about seeing what i hated so much about the whole thing (not that he'll really understand everything, i mean of course he never will to my extent but)... i'd like to see what an outsiders view on the whole thing would be as well.

OrphanCrow

Oh dear. I have to stop...

We would have to have a doctrine and belief. We could have a belief that we are the chosen who have survived Armageddon, and that right now, it is the final seconds before that 1000 year event where Satan is coming and gonna eat up all the bad guys for one last time.

We could be the JWs of the future...we just got our time frame off. We believe that this here right now is Paradise Earth and that the cleanup has failed so Satan is coming. Armageddon happened ages ago...

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Thinking about taking my fiance to a meeting.. going as a "worldly person"

by OneStepOut93 in

i may take my fiance to a meeting.

give them fake names and just see how my fiance reacts.

he's been curious about seeing what i hated so much about the whole thing (not that he'll really understand everything, i mean of course he never will to my extent but)... i'd like to see what an outsiders view on the whole thing would be as well.

OrphanCrow

It sure would be fun, James!

You could really tweak it to...have all of the Family members be mute. Big, happy smiles and looks. Shaking everyone's hands...the other hand with the bibble - a black book that looks like a bible but is actually George Orwell's 1984.

And there would be two leaders who would do all the talking and communicating for the group. A man and a woman. They would either speak in unison or if one spoke, the other would repeat it. They would explain that in their religion, man and woman were exactly equal.

I think one piece overalls would work for the 'uniform'. All the same color. Grey. Neutral.