Thanks, Jeff.
Got it.
OrphanCrow
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A note on the Watchtowers property investments
by Saintbertholdt inabout a year ago there was a thread regarding the 2008 watchtower bible and tract society of new yorks tax return.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/287098/2008-watchtower-income-tax-return?page=1.
a reference was made to the provictor property fund iv which was listed as their primary alternate business activity.. turns out that at that time 75% of the chrysler building was owned by the provictor property fund iv until it was sold during that year.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/09/news/international/chrysler_building/?postversion=2008070913.
just thought you should know :).
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A note on the Watchtowers property investments
by Saintbertholdt inabout a year ago there was a thread regarding the 2008 watchtower bible and tract society of new yorks tax return.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/287098/2008-watchtower-income-tax-return?page=1.
a reference was made to the provictor property fund iv which was listed as their primary alternate business activity.. turns out that at that time 75% of the chrysler building was owned by the provictor property fund iv until it was sold during that year.. http://money.cnn.com/2008/07/09/news/international/chrysler_building/?postversion=2008070913.
just thought you should know :).
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OrphanCrow
Millie: I just did the math and as of today that total is equal to $1,361,584,818.41 give or take a few pennies.
Millie...can you show your math? I am not following how you got that figure. The only relevant number I could find was that the fund was worth $18.78 billion...and if the WTS owns 7%, then the WTS share would be worth just over $13 million.
Portfolio stats (as of 8/31/2015)Fund Assets $18.78 (in billions) -
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Is it really that great being one of the Governing Body Members?
by John Aquila inmovie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.
they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.
(how much fun would that be?
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prologos: OC: "--as a GB you can readily find a young honey half your age"-- ?--- You do not have to be GB material to achieve that
I didn't say that - I was only quoting JWGoneBad.
I only responded that it is "how women are thought of in the JW cult. Johnson warmers."
As I said before...and people wonder why abuse is such a problem in the JW cult??
And you are right, prologos, you don't have to be a GB member to measure success on whether or not you can get a young johnson warmer.
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Is it really that great being one of the Governing Body Members?
by John Aquila inmovie stars travel to, or buy their own private beaches, they get invited to fun parties, and are able to buy not one, but several fast sport cars like jay leno.
they can buy their own planes and helicopters and fly them like harrison ford.
(how much fun would that be?
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JWGoneBad: ....because of your position and rank as a GB you can readily find a young honey half your age to keep your 'Johnson' warm.
Of course.
That is exactly how men measure success - if they have someplace warm and wet to stick their johnson.
And that, my girls, is how women are thought of in the JW cult. Johnson warmers.
And people wonder why there is such an abuse problem in the JWs? Huh. Knock me over with a feather.
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If they go bankrupt, so what?
by maksutov init seems likely that the watchtower is worried about its finances, given the downsizing, property schemes, and money-grabs we have been seeing over the last few years.
perhaps they suffered badly from the financial crisis.
for sure, there will be more expenses to come from child abuse payouts.
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OrphanCrow
I didn't do it, Vidiot!
Not me.... ;p
Lol!
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"Fair Use" copyright ruling
by OrphanCrow inthe decision to allow fair use of copyrighted material could have an impact on the wts' attempts to use copyright laws to pull content that is critical of them.it is ironic that this ruling was made in response to one of prince's songs.. (this article was posted on exjwreddit)demand that mother remove home video from youtube backfires.
a music companys demand that youtube take down a 29-second home video of two children dancing to a song by prince backfired monday when a federal appeals court used the case to make it harder for copyright-holders to act against brief, non-commercial uses of their material.recording companies, motion picture studios and other copyright owners issue numerous takedown notices each day, targeting everything from home videos to campaign ads that include segments of songs or newscasts.
when a copyright-holder tells a website like youtube that one of its postings violates the holders exclusive rights to license the material, federal law requires that the posting be removed immediately.but the ninth u.s. circuit court of appeals in san francisco said the copyright-holder must first consider whether such a video amounts to fair use of the work, making it eligible to be legally posted.
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I have always thought that the WTS whining about copyright violations didn't really have much legal substance. They have been able to just simply make requests for removal and have not been challenged for requesting removal in the first place. It is good to see that "The law “requires copyright-holders to consider fair use before sending a takedown notification,” and those that fail to do so can be held liable for damages".
Maybe the WTS will think twice about their whining over fair use of copyrighted malterial if it could cost them some money.
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Mandrakes, what are they?
by purrpurr ini decided to do about of research about mandrakes.
remember the ones found by dan and purchased from leah by rachel?.
now i don't remember seeing any indepth explanation of what mandrakes are in the wt.
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purrpurr:So it would appear that Rachel wanted these mandrakes to: practice magic with, to get high or to bring their magical powers into the home to help her get pregnant?
Not neccessarily. Mandrake has been used medicinally for centuries for far more than the purposes that you have mentioned.
https://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/m/mandra10.html
Medicinal Action and Uses---The leaves are quite harmless and cooling, and have been used for ointments and other external application. Boiled in milk and used as a poultice, they were employed by Boerhaave as an application to indolent ulcers.
The fresh root operates very powerfully as an emetic and purgative. The dried bark of the root was used also as a rough emetic.
Mandrake was much used by the Ancients, who considered it an anodyne and soporific. In large doses it is said to excite delirium and madness. They used it for procuring rest and sleep in continued pain, also in melancholy, convulsions, rheumatic pains and scrofulous tumours. They mostly employed the bark of the root, either expressing the juice or infusing it in wine or water. The root finely scraped into a pulp and mixed with brandy was said to be efficacious in chronic rheumatism.
Mandrake was used in Pliny's days as an anaesthetic for operations, a piece of the root being given to the patient to chew before undergoing the operation. In small doses it was employed by the Ancients in maniacal cases.
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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......
by The Rebel ini believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.
and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.
furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.
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OrphanCrow
Viv: Depends on how he meant it, Orphan,...
Actually, how he meant it has nothing to do with it.
I only read exactly what he wrote. I didn't interpret it - I just followed sentence structure rules.
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Instructions from the Old Elder's Book
by John Aquila inlast night i was looking over the notes on my old elders book and one of the instructors told us to write this down.
"when you want to get the friends to believe and obey anything, just keep saying it over and over and over and eventually they will believe it and follow whatever they are being told.
when i went back to school, i learned this quote in one of my world history classes..
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OrphanCrow
John: "I've never been in a bar"
What??
Well then...methinks it is time someone introduced you to the worldly pleasures of drinking beer and playing pool.
:)
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WHEN people leave a cult...MAN landed on the moon? Or critical thinking......
by The Rebel ini believe anyone who has voluntarily left a cult has shown they can adapt to new solutions, and have used " critical thinking" skills otherwise most would not have left.. yet i believe a safe place for support is still needed and this safe place i believe is searched for.. now i may not measure up to much in ways of education, but for me personally " critical thinking skills" = " new" a " new" way of thinking, that takes time for me the individual to be visual and to contemplate.
and the more i read about " critical thinking," the more convinced i am that i can live with the ridicule of those that claim i do not possess it.
furthermore i would say those that criticise others " critical thinking skills," often luck the sensibility and thoughts to snore, spit, and fart....nor would they understand a room full of tobacco smoke and cheap booze...where " critical thinking " can often be found in its most profound, in the most sensitive poems and "pictures" that were ever drawn.
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OrphanCrow
Viv, you make some excellent points. However, this statement needs a bit of work:
"Every dinner my wife makes is special and such does not render the previous dinners un-special or any equal to the others. Despite the fact that sometimes the menu repeats itself."
All that tells me is that you don't know what "special" means."Special", in the context of the sentence structure that was used does, indeed. reveal that the person knows quite well what "special" means. If the sentence had been "Every dinner is special.." then you have a point. However, that is not what the sentence says. It says "Every dinner that my wife makes..." which identifies those dinners as being special. Special in this case describes the meals made by his wife as opposed to all other dinners made by other people.