if a thread has been made about this i apologize.. if anyone has not seen the latest hbo documentary release, "going clear: scientology and the prison of belief" i cannot recommend highly enough that you watch it.
as the majority of us here are either survivors of or still trapped in a cult ourselves, this documentary will most certainly intrigue you.
it's the most in-depth and extensively researched documentary on scientology ever and features interviews with ex-scientologists who were right at the top until they fell foul of their megalomaniacal, paranoid chairman of the board, david miscavige.. i have read some of l. ron hubbard's books out of curiosity and outright dismissed them as utter nonsense.
I haven't had the opportunity to watch Going Clear yet. It is on my list of "to watch".
But, I did watch The Master not long ago. It is a movie that is somewhat based on L. Ron Hubbard and the start of Scientology. I had a difficult time watching it through all at once - it took me three sittings. I found the movie to be quite disturbing.
do you remember the wt lawyer trying to get justice mcclelland to accept a new and improved report from the wt "expert", monica applewhite?.
the wt lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the commission for applewhite to prepare her report.
funny thing is, applewhite never submitted that report.. i guess she has been too busy with catholic business...no time for the wt dudes.
Do you remember the WT lawyer trying to get Justice McClelland to accept a new and improved report from the WT "expert", Monica Applewhite?
The WT lawyer even managed to squeeze more time from the Commission for Applewhite to prepare her report. Funny thing is, Applewhite never submitted that report.
I guess she has been too busy with Catholic business...no time for the WT dudes. Or, maybe she realized that her "expert" credentials were taking a beating and it would be best for her to cut her losses and run.
i found this picture and i just can't believe it?
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http://www.jw-archive.org/post/130152768378/jw-booth-at-a-book-fair-in-brazil-photo-shared-by#.
never a jw: C'mon. Ralph's supermarket employees use the same shirt, the security guards of many companies use the same uniform, the personnel in many museum uses a uniform, etc. There's plenty of NON-CULTS who required their personnel to dress in a certain way for some reasonable , even practical purpose.
You are absolutely right. And you forgot sports' teams and Girl Guides and Boy Scouts and school uniforms and armies...but, can you name a religion that dresses in a uniform? Well...other than the Catholic nuns. And Catholic priests/monks. Buddhist monks. Hare Krishna.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
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wallkill photo gallery 2.
Listener- There is no insult it's highly unlikely that a great number of them would be qualified unless the org went on a special recruitment drive specifically for females.
Your conclusion does not follow your premise.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
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wallkill photo gallery 2.
Listener: I am a female and don't mean to suggest anything offensive about females. More and more females are becoming involved in building work these days but males still far outstrip them in numbers.
Yeah..but you didn't say numbers, you said quailifed. Big difference.
And it doesn't matter if you are female, you still can't get away with that insult.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
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wallkill photo gallery 2.
Listener: Under one of the photo's is a comment that states females make up 35% of the workers. Thats got to mean a lot of unqualified workers.
Yeah. You are right.
Take the females out of the work force, and you have 65% of those volunteers who have questionable qualifications.
the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.
the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.
my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.
WitnessMy Fury: An externally forced shut down would be sweeping and complete i would have thought, including the dumbass new headquarters.
I still think it's about money.
Of course it is about money.
Do you remember when the WTS was stopped from completing a proposed sale when Candace Conti's payout was still in the air? A full shut down isn't necessary - but a partial shutdown makes sense.
I think the WTS owes money somewhere - maybe a big demand note or something like that. Something came due that they couldn't/wouldn't pay.
the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.
the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.
my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.
Morpheus: Forced... By who? For what reason? No one government can force a coporation to shut down world wide.
As I said...it is speculation.
By who? Probably by the IRS.
"No one government"... maybe not. But, all it would take is for the government where the WTS has their world heaquarters. Even if they are located world-wide, the WTS still has a home base.
the chelmsford project in the uk has already come to a halt and every one has been sent home.
the bethel family in london is to be cut by several hundred.
my impression is that most ambitious youngster in the org dream of being involved with the building program.
I have spent the past couple days thinking...and speculating.
This is my speculative conclusion (one of them...lol...I have overlapping theories),
The WTS was court ordered to shut down extraneous building projects. The shutdown is too sweeping to be a headquarter planned move. It appears to be an anticipated move but not a voluntary one.
As stupid as we would like to think that the "powers who be" are in the Tower, I don't think that it is as simple as "they ran out of money". I think it is quite possible that the WTS has been forced, through court action of some kind, to stop the outflow of money into wasteful building projects.
I believe that time will tell, but it won't surprise me if this was a forced shutdown. A forced shutdown that the WTS knew was coming.
the warwick gallery #1 and gallery #2 are still up.. i have #3 backed up: http://imgur.com/a/klnlg.
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wallkill photo gallery 2.
Thanks for posting those photos Wifi.
I can't wait to show my father the photos. I know he will go though the roof. A construction project that big being done with volunteer labour will make him crazy. The building code violations must be astronomical.
The logistical nightmare of trying to manage a volunteer group of that size would be enough to give even the most seasoned construction site supervisor permanent heart palpitations. My father would lose his mind whenever he had to train a unexperienced crew for a jobsite - and that was just for little projects like hospitals and schools - not some monstrosity like the Warwick project.
It is one thing to slam a Kingdom Hall build in a weekend with people who don't know how to hold a hammer properly but it would quite another undertaking to consider taking on a project of that size with people who want to dress up in safety gear and pose for photos.
Unbelievable. And frankly, quite insane.
