EndofMysteries: Virgochik, yup and if they dispute it then the legal proceedings can delay it by months.
With that said, quite possibly those bethelites could be able to sue them as long as a statute of limitations hasn't passed!
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Bethel Layoffs In Australia Confirmed
by jonahstourguide inyes, last week the number of bethel layoffs was confirmed from 90 to 125. .
and those going in thinking they may be there for some time have been told.
that they may be there for two months rather than 3 years depending on .
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Not only that, but sometimes rental/tenancy disputes will delay eviction for as long as legal proceedings take. If a Bethel worker sucessfully filed a protest against being evicted, they may be able to "squat" at Bethel for quite some time. -
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ROKU Maybe damaging TVs
by TakeOffTheCrown inusing a roku may damage the color on tv sets.
it appears to change the color phase to magenta.. has anyone else noticed this problem on their tvs while using a roku?
apparently, the problem cannot be repaired.. http://forums.roku.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=90113.
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Take Off The Crown:
"There is a color phase error on the Roku4 that shifts color to the magenta. This is particularly obvious with flesh tones."Oh no.
I am picturing Jackson or Lett with magenta faces...and magenta hands flashing rings of magenta light.
And all the JWs watching those magenta faces.
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Bethel Germany, the same is happening here
by Driving Force inthis is just to mention that the same is happening in germany as with other countries, bethel family being reduced by 25%, which means 250 persons, and all the rest of the stuff, laundry etc.. i do not have any special privileged information this is from a german website .
http://www.bruderinfo-aktuell.de/index.php/neues-aus-selters/#more-2475.
it is reliable.. there is a letter to the special pioneers which i have translated below:.
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OrphanCrow
We are firmly convinced that Jehovah will always bless your loyalty in the future by supplying you with the necessities
Simon:
Translation: you are on your own.Yeah...funny how that works. The GB place themselves in a position of acting for Jehovah, but when the chips are down, they disconnect themselves from him and 'Jehovah' ends up being somewhere 'out there'.
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Rutherford Exposed: The Story of Berta and Bonnie
by Farkel init was made by a women who in later years wore crotchless panties and bras which had holes in the nipple areas.
he not only knew the woman in question (she's now deceased), he has met her numerous times.
up until recently this secret of her year's long sexual affair with rutherford was kept by the family.
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:)
This is one of my favorites threads on this forum.
Thanks for bumping it, Tenacious.
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Hearing Set in Delaware Suit Against Jehovah's Witnesses Elders' Failure to Report Sex Abuse
by OrphanCrow inhearing set in delaware suit against jehovah's witnesses elders' failure to report sex abuse.
the judge is set to hear arguments in a civil lawsuit by the attorney general's claiming that elders of a jehovah's witnesses congregation failed to report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were congregation members.. state law requires any person, agency, organization or entity who knows or in good faith suspects that a child is being abused or neglected to call a 24-hour hotline.
the law specifically states that the reporting requirements apply to health care workers and organizations, school employees, social workers, psychologists and law enforcement officials.. but a lawyer for the sussex county congregation is arguing that the elders are protected from the reporting requirements by clergy privilege, similar to the confidentiality of a church confessional.. .
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The Searcher: Can someone Stateside inform the Delaware Attorney General's office (and other agencies!!) that J.W.'s do not have a clergy? Because every J.W. who is baptised is recognised as a minister.
What the WTS tells their followers and what they claim on their legal documents are two entirely different things.
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Hearing Set in Delaware Suit Against Jehovah's Witnesses Elders' Failure to Report Sex Abuse
by OrphanCrow inhearing set in delaware suit against jehovah's witnesses elders' failure to report sex abuse.
the judge is set to hear arguments in a civil lawsuit by the attorney general's claiming that elders of a jehovah's witnesses congregation failed to report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were congregation members.. state law requires any person, agency, organization or entity who knows or in good faith suspects that a child is being abused or neglected to call a 24-hour hotline.
the law specifically states that the reporting requirements apply to health care workers and organizations, school employees, social workers, psychologists and law enforcement officials.. but a lawyer for the sussex county congregation is arguing that the elders are protected from the reporting requirements by clergy privilege, similar to the confidentiality of a church confessional.. .
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OrphanCrow
The JW woman who was convicted in this case has already been given a six year sentence:
It is the elders turn now.
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Hearing Set in Delaware Suit Against Jehovah's Witnesses Elders' Failure to Report Sex Abuse
by OrphanCrow inhearing set in delaware suit against jehovah's witnesses elders' failure to report sex abuse.
the judge is set to hear arguments in a civil lawsuit by the attorney general's claiming that elders of a jehovah's witnesses congregation failed to report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were congregation members.. state law requires any person, agency, organization or entity who knows or in good faith suspects that a child is being abused or neglected to call a 24-hour hotline.
the law specifically states that the reporting requirements apply to health care workers and organizations, school employees, social workers, psychologists and law enforcement officials.. but a lawyer for the sussex county congregation is arguing that the elders are protected from the reporting requirements by clergy privilege, similar to the confidentiality of a church confessional.. .
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Hearing Set in Delaware Suit Against Jehovah's Witnesses Elders' Failure to Report Sex Abuse
The judge is set to hear arguments in a civil lawsuit by the attorney general's claiming that elders of a Jehovah's Witnesses congregation failed to report an unlawful sexual relationship between a woman and a 14-year-old boy, both of whom were congregation members.
State law requires any person, agency, organization or entity who knows or in good faith suspects that a child is being abused or neglected to call a 24-hour hotline. The law specifically states that the reporting requirements apply to health care workers and organizations, school employees, social workers, psychologists and law enforcement officials.
But a lawyer for the Sussex County congregation is arguing that the elders are protected from the reporting requirements by clergy privilege, similar to the confidentiality of a church confessional.
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Does the Federal employment law requiring notice of 60 days of mass layoffs apply to Watchtower Corporation?
by truthseeker inyes, bethelites are unpaid volunteers/employees.. this mass firing of bethelites in the us will prove to be a drain on state and local government finances as many of these bethelites will seek government assistance.. can it be said that the federal employment law applies to bethel?.
a federal law called consolidated omnibus budget reconciliation act ... act (warn) requires larger employers to give employees notice 60 days before an ... layoffs, which are defined the same as above but occur in stages over a period of 90 days.. http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/layoffs-plant-closings-know-rights-33596.html.
notice requirements.
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Zappa: So you are in essence S----------D !
Maybe not.
the two essential components of the employment relationship are the provision for work or assistance in exchange for remuneration. "Remuneration" can be in money "... or in kind".
The key might be in "renumeration".
What does it cost the WTS to house and provide for each Bethel worker each month? This is a taxable amount that a person has to pay personal income tax on. At least, in Canada you do, if you are employed in a 'regular' job. For example, if a person is provided with a meal by their employer (like on a film set or something...) they have to pay personal income tax on the amount the meal is worth. The meal is included in their gross earnings.
The WTS is treading in the murky water between 'volunteer' and 'employee'. Giving a 'volunteer' for a charitable orgainzation a bit of spending money is reasonable. But, the premise of that is to provide for someone who is probably part of a larger community and working at another job or someone who may be retired and helping out. For incidental purchases that they might have. Like an honorarium, sort of.
But, with Bethel, it is different. The WTS is giving the workers much more than that. Shelter. That is compensation that benefits the Bethel worker and is therefore considered "income". They received compensation "in kind". Which, somehow, blurs the line between "employee" and "volunteer".
I think it would be worthwhile pursuing this further with a lawyer. Different lawyers will also have various viewpoints and jurisdictions. What may apply in one country may not in another.
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"The Calendar of Jehovah God" - a historical tidbit
by OrphanCrow inin 1935, clayton woodworth (editor of the golden age - later the awake!
magazine) devised a 'new' calendar that he proposed was far superior to the pagan calendars that have been used in human history.he wrote a three part series for the golden age (i am not sure if these were actually published) that laid out his justifications for how this new calendar was more accurate and of course, was right in line with the divine plan.
the calendar was published in the 1935 yearbook, but the watchtower magazine later published a retraction to the calendar.
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JWdaughter: A retraction in WT literature. Was that a one off? How was it phrased?
From a thread 12 years ago :
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/56455/retractions-watchtower?size=10&page=1
w5/1/35 142
THE CALENDAR
TO HAVE a correct system of reckoning time is desirable. It is well known that the calendars heretofore used have been incorrect and unsatisfactory. For this reason The Golden Age published facts concerning a system of reckoning time, obtaining the important data from the Scriptures, and some from astronomy. Seeing there is a danger of giving importance to this and to the exclusion of weightier matters, this note of warning is here sounded. God’s people should keep in mind the “pyramid” delusion and the speculations that accompanied the study of chronology, and the pitfalls into which these things led many. Do not fall into a similar trap. It is of far more importance to understand our commission and to perform it than to understand at just what time Adam was created. Be reasonable and moderate. Avoid wild speculation as to at what time and in what manner things future will come to pass. Be sure that you always are guided by the counsel of the Lord’s Word. The statements in The Golden Age are not dogmatic, but are worthy of due and careful consideration. -
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"The Calendar of Jehovah God" - a historical tidbit
by OrphanCrow inin 1935, clayton woodworth (editor of the golden age - later the awake!
magazine) devised a 'new' calendar that he proposed was far superior to the pagan calendars that have been used in human history.he wrote a three part series for the golden age (i am not sure if these were actually published) that laid out his justifications for how this new calendar was more accurate and of course, was right in line with the divine plan.
the calendar was published in the 1935 yearbook, but the watchtower magazine later published a retraction to the calendar.
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Simon: Which idiot would have Lightday and Lifeday as names ... no possibility of any confusion there !
"I'll meet you next liteday"
"Ok, lifeday, got it ..."Lol!
Well...today is "Mansday", in the month of "Jehovah". Aaaaccckkk!