"Standard" of activism.
= using the philosphies of an activist approach in order to define a comedic performance.
Standard = measurement.
Standard of activism = using the notion of activism as a way to measure comedy
OrphanCrow
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Watch: Comedian Lewis Black Reads 18 Year Old's Awesome Resignation Letter To The Mormon Church
by Captain Schmideo2 inhttp://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_comedian_lewis_black_reads_18_year_old_s_resignation_letter_to_the_mormon_church(warning!
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Flipper: The fact that so many rank & file JW's continue to stay trapped inside the walls of WT Society control indicates they are controlled through fear and guilt of leaving. So they are still indoctrinated and controlled through fear and guilt anyway you slice it .
It isn't just the fear and guilt that keeps people trapped in the JW doctrines - it is the person's own insecurities that keep them there. They want to feel "special" and part of an "elite", better than others, "saved". Leaving the JW doctrine means having to live a life without the false promise of "life everlasting right here on this earth".
Holding onto JW theology/doctrine is actually a classic move (and one I did when I left way back at the age of 13/14) for many that are struggling with the deceptive practices of the WTS. I had to hang onto what I knew because I hadn't had the opportunity to explore any other options. I had the idea that "if Jehovah is real, he will understand that I am trying to be good" and that I would get my pass into paradise anyways.
However, I grew out of that thinking many years ago (long before information was as readily available as it is now). It was the recognition that the "us" and "them" thinking that the WTS had instilled in me was counter-productive to my recovery and I gladly shed off the elitist thinking that had kept me bound in a mental prison.
I think that people who reject the Org but retain the beliefs are doing so because of a need to hold onto the false promise of paradise and the need to believe that they are "special". It is sort of like "having your cake and eating it too". They want the promises. They want their "reward" for being good because they are special.
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Watch: Comedian Lewis Black Reads 18 Year Old's Awesome Resignation Letter To The Mormon Church
by Captain Schmideo2 inhttp://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_comedian_lewis_black_reads_18_year_old_s_resignation_letter_to_the_mormon_church(warning!
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OrphanCrow
Simon, I am fully aware of the power of comedy as a resistive force. Without question it can function that way.
However, that does not mean that all comedy performances have to be held to the standard of activism.
And, to expect comedy to function within a proscribed moral space that makes judgements on the use of profane language is ignoring the diversity of the audience.
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Watch: Comedian Lewis Black Reads 18 Year Old's Awesome Resignation Letter To The Mormon Church
by Captain Schmideo2 inhttp://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/davidbadash/watch_comedian_lewis_black_reads_18_year_old_s_resignation_letter_to_the_mormon_church(warning!
language!
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OrphanCrow
makemeanunbeliever: If one cant make their points without harsh profanity then it wont make deep inroads of change.
I don't think that a comedian's rant is about making change. Since when are comedians held up to the standard of activism?
This is comedy, not activism. Comedy is about finding "voice", not about satisfying the audience's need to see change.
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Silent And Sweet Rebellion Going On Within JW Organization!
by lsw1961 inafter 1975, the vast majority remained as though nothing has happened.
but some left the organization.
however, there arose a third category who did not leave the organization, but brought a new view into their heart: jws are right in their core cause (gods kingdom as the solution to mankinds problems) but may or may not be right in their supplementary teachings, hence are not bothered about changes happening in this unimportant area..
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Distracted: I'm wondering why this thread got rather contentious??? It doesn't make sense to me. I thought this group was open to people of various stages of awareness and positions.
That is an easy one to answer, Distracted. Godzoo gave the answer on page one of this thread:
Godzoo: Here we go again. Preaching masquerading as debate..
Generally, exJW communities do not respond well to people who try to preach to them.
A poster can dress it up whatever way they like, but certain members, like Godzoo, have a finely tuned nose that is sensitive to preaching smells.
This poster reeks strongly of preaching smell.
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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Lee Elder: There is a contact page at the bottom of the map.
I am confused, Lee. I tried to use the contact email at the bottom of the page but when I tried to send it, I got an error message.
Other than that, all I can find on the blood map page is a place to leave a comment. I don't want to post a comment as the information I am giving has names, etc, that I don't want to post - am I supposed to use the comment feature to report a no-blood incident?
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Thank you, Wifi. I downloaded it and stuck it in my ever growing bulky file of "rules and regulations of the WTS".
Sheesh...do you know of any other group/organization that micromanages to this degree? I get dizzy reading all their rules and restrictions and directives on behaviour. Not only that, but it is hard to breathe after a session of wading through WTS letters and documents.
Gad, if you stacked up hard copies of all the rules, regulations, letters of instruction, manuals, etc,, that this organization has produced in its history, how high do you think the pile would be?
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Over-protective parent?
by GrownMidget ini was something like 20-21 and there was this young sister, maybe 16 who i happened to like back in the day ... uh oh ...we met in the summer convention because i made the first move while she was playing board games with her friend.
we kept in touch via skype and text messages because lived kinda far from each other.
eventually her mother heard of the stuff and said to her daughter that the chatting must stop.... well, when two people have a little crush on one another, it sure doesn't.
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Morpheus: The final insult.... You bought her a gift. You stalked her and found out what size she wore and bought her something to wear.
I agree. That behaviour is called "grooming". What makes it even creepier is that it was an item of clothing as opposed to something less personal. A 20 something adult man buying clothing for a "maybe 16" (likely less...) year old girl? Yuck. She is a minor child regardless of how she looks.
The bottom line...
Underage is illegal. Against the law regardless of the "cultural norms" of the JW cult.
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Is the Borg winding down printing altogether?
by slimboyfat inthe thread about magazines stopping distribution in india reminded me of a recent conversation.
a local brother said he asked for a copy of the new organisation book for publishers.
the elder told the brother to print it out if he wanted a physical copy.
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NewYork44:
dropoffyourkeylee
However, in undeveloped countries there is still a need for print.
That is only if they are interested in pursuing their interests in these countries. They may have the attitude of why bother, these countries bring no economic value to the organization.It isn't just the money...many of those "undeveloped countries" have laws that prohibit religious conversion. India, for one.
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Document Blood Transfusion Deaths - please help
by Lee Elder inthe vast majority of deaths from the blood policy are undocumented because they are simply not newsworthy.
if you know of a death or serious injury/disability related to the blood policy, please help us document it.
send as many details as you can recall.
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OrphanCrow
This quote showed up in the Australasian Anaesthsia Blue Book 2011 in an article The Management of Adult Jehovah’s Witnesses in Anaesthesia and Critical Care by ANNE-MARIE WELSH, BSC, MBCHB (HONS), MRCP, FCICM Staff Specialist, Department of Critical Care Medicine, Nambour General Hospital, Nambour.
It is estimated that approximately 1000 Jehovah’s Witnesses die annually worldwide and as many as 100,000 may have died by abstaining from blood transfusions since the blood ban was introduced in 1945.
http://www.anzca.edu.au/resources/college-publications/pdfs/ANZCA%20Blue%20Book%202011%20P6.pdf
I have made several attempts to contact Anne-Marie Welsh to find out where she had accessed those numbers, but I have been unsuccessful in my attempts to contact her. Because this paper was published in Australia, and Australia's health care system is influenced by WT bloodless men, I assumed that the numbers came from the JWs who have been interested in promoting blood management in Australia. But, I could be wrong about that.