Posts by OrphanCrow

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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!

by Luther bertrand in

given derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.

if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.

here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.

OrphanCrow

Luther: 1. The first is the 2 witness policy for verification within the congregation. Though in this instance his tactic I admit would fall short.
2. The fact that there are no laws for mandatory reporting of suspected child abuse in large swath of legal jurisdictions, which need to be changed. Hell even Geoffory Jackson agreed with this!

Challenging these rules of the WTS is not civil disobedience.

Breaking the law in order to bring attention to these issues is not civil disobedience - it is simply breaking the law - and the law being broken has no bearing whatsoever on the rules being challenged.

You cannot call violent protest civil disobedience. They are apples and oranges.

Using examples, like Parks and Ghandi (who actually did use civil disobedience) to try to bolster your position is not valid and it does an disservice to people who actually did have the courage to stand up and change unjust laws.

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EXJWSOLIDARITY!!!!!

by Luther bertrand in

given derek o'hares legal issues for his brave protests i have created an fb banner to show not only exjwsolidarity but also that we appreciate derek's protests.

if you have not viewed his protests go to the "derek ohare1" youtube channel.

here is the fb banner that was i created fix it to your own fb page and show support for derek and all strugglers!.

OrphanCrow

I am going to jump in here, Luther, because I have a question for you.

You site Rosa Parks and Ghandi as examples of civil disobedience.

Their acts of civil disobedience were done as acts that challenged specific laws. They deliberately broke the laws that needed changing.

My question:

What specific law is being challenged by this person that you claim is acting in civil disobedience?

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

OrphanCrow

BethSarim: There HAS to be a scapegoat. A ''sacrificial lamb'' of sorts.

The real sacrificial lambs are the JWs who die for the profit of the "bloodless" industry.

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JW jailed for £8million investment fraud - UK

by OrphanCrow in

http://m.thenorthernecho.co.uk/news/14276665.victims__brainwashed__in___8m_investment_scam/he told investors that his status as a jehovah’s witness meant he was unable to break the law, in an effort to win their trust.. teesside crown court heard how many of the 350 victims were elderly and had been deliberately targeted.some had since died with the stress of the county durham-based fraud having contributed to their ill health, and others had lost homes and life savings.a third man the crown said was involved, anthony kemp, is currently serving a prison sentence in new zealand for a separate but similar fraud, but is expected to be extradited back to the uk to stand trial when he is released.. .

full aricle at link.

OrphanCrow

vidiot: Frankly, I'm surprised this hasn't happened more often.
(Or maybe it just hasn't been reported too much until now.

http://jwemployees.bravehost.com/NewsReports/2015.html

For decades, the WatchTower Society has repeatedly portrayed its' Jehovah's Witness members as "the most honest people on earth", supposedly because Jehovah's Witnesses are members of "the only true religion on earth". The following state and federal employment related criminal and civil court cases are not intended as evidence that Jehovah's Witness Employees are more dishonest than other employees, but rather are intended to demonstrate that Jehovah's Witnesses are just as dishonest, or honest, as are other members of the human population -- whether religious or non-religious.
Mounting evidence, however, seems to indicate that a higher than normal percentage of Jehovah's Witness Investments-Insurance Salespersons are turning to crime. See below all the Investments-Insurance related cases which have become public over the past decade just since the flood of information provided by the internet. (Just for fun, try to keep track of how many times the word "California" occurs just on this first page of this 10-page section.)

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Freddy Franz, One of the smartest men of his day????

by DwainBowman in

back in my teen years this story swept through jw land, that according to, the guinness book of records , freddy franz, was listed as one of the seven, most intelligent , men in the world.

dose anyone else remember this?

i remember trying to look it up, but never found anything in print, and ii point that out once or twice , and was told a co, had told about it, and he wouldn't lie!

OrphanCrow

sparky: Statements like this perpetuate the man and his myth

And statements about how brilliant he was.

Predicting Armageddon in 1975 was brilliant, wasn't it? Brilliant of him to do the math on that one. Pure brilliance. Outstanding. A sign of real intelligence, for sure.

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Should I get babtized?

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.

she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.

OrphanCrow

blackwolf: They also don't care that Jesus was babtized when he was 30 (their excuse is that people lived longer back then lol)

Ummm...you might want to google that, Blackwolfgirl. And then show it to your parents.

Life expectancy during the time that Jesus would have lived was shorter than it is today, not longer.

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

OrphanCrow

Yeah, Sparrow. I feel like Alice in Wonderland sometimes.

Down the rabbit hole we go...it gets pretty nuts - it makes your head explode at times.

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Should I get babtized?

by BlackWolf in

jw
friends

i know this sounds like a ridiculous question but i was talking with my mom in the car today and of course we got on the topic of getting babtized again.

she told me that jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether i am babtized or not so i have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

my parents are the type of super strict jw who will shun you just for not being a witness.

OrphanCrow

Blackwolf: She told me that Jehovah holds me accountable for my sins regardless of wether I am babtized or not so I have no reason to be holding back because it won't change anything.

I don't think your mother has the WT doctrine down correctly. It has been a loooong time since I was a JW, but, back in the day....what she told you would be incorrect.

The teaching at the time that I was active was that the ones held accountable for the sins of an unbaptized minor are the parents.

Children are judged upon the sins of the mother and father. It is your mother that has to watch herself, not you. She is responsible for your 'salvation' based upon her behaviour, not yours.

She wants you to get baptized to relieve herself of that responsibilty.

Baptism is not the solution to loneliness but rather, it is the path to permanent isolation.

Hang in there, Blackwolf....just a couple more years and the world is yours. It is just waiting for you to join it.

:)

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

OrphanCrow

sparrowdown: I am finding threads leading back to WT that are just as someone else has said - bizarre.

Yes, some of the connections are bizarre.

When I was exploring down one rabbit hole, I discovered a company owned by a JW -Guenther Reibling (Lorenz's brother) - that, like the company under discussion in this thread, was also concerned with the biofuel market.

Funny thing is, that company morphed into a marijuana growing company - still owned by Reibling.

"Biofuel" --->>> marijuana.

Makes sense. ;)

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WATCHTOWER SCAM? WTWR NYSE

by biblexaminer in

in 2009, a new company, traded on the new york stock exchange was initiated.. watchtower inc. wtwr.

corporate headquarters.

100 henry streetbrooklyn, new york 11201united states.

OrphanCrow

mynameislame: Note their web page is http://watchtowerdocuments.org/ which appears to be an exjw site?

I am not sure that the site you link to is all that reliable.
Watchtowerdocuments.org is Barbara Anderson's site.

Phone number search turns up
St George Hotel
100 Henry St
Brooklyn, NY 11201

Yes. If you refer back to the fourth post on this thread, biblexaminer has already phoned them.