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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

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  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  cofty: In a modern abattoir the blood is collected and used for all manner of commercial uses. Therefore is would be unlawful to eat the meat you buy in a butcher's shop or supermarket.

  When I was a kid, we were not allowed to eat processed meat. Bologna and hot dogs were seen as the devil's food. The only processed meat product that anybody in the congregation would buy came from a Jewish kosher meat processing company.

  I have always had a suspicion that those earlier dietary rules were rooted in the financial alliances that the Bible Students had with the Jewish community - "tell your adherents not to eat blood and buy our food instead".

  Where the WT really lost the plot, though, was when they banned the use of certain pet foods and garden fertilizers that were made with blood products. That was insanity at its finest.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  steve2: Doubtfully Yours provides a very helpful glimpse into the cult mentality in which obedience to misapplied scripture is praised over life itself.
  Not for the faint of heart indeed! As religious extremists of every color and shade have demonstrated across human history, having one's life extinguished in the name of submission to the Divine can be the highest honor!

  The WT blood policy exploits the martyr complex.

  "In psychology a person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term victim complex, desires the feeling of being a martyr for his/her own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it either feeds a psychological need, or a desire to avoid responsibility."

  Embracing martyrdom is self serving/selfish. People who have no purpose are the ones who will embrace somebody else's purpose and call it admirable. False courage and irresponsibility dressed up as virtue.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  cofty: The unnecessary death of children isn't boring. It is a scandal.

  It is not just children who die from the WT blood policy.

  In reality, it is women who are at the greatest risk of dying from the refusal of blood.

  DY: Definitely, upholding the JW blood stance is not for the faint of heart.

  No, it is for those who are willfully blind and willfully ignorant.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  DY: Stop the hating.

  Hating???

  No way will I EVER stop hating the murderous blood policy of the WT.

  Methinks you are the one who needs to change and stop interpreting rational discussion of a superstition as hate directed against yourself. This isn't just about you.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  vidiot: @ OrphanCrow...
  I'm still scratching my head over the Org's historical animosity towards the American Medical Association...

  That's easy to understand.

  Short version is this: Quack religion and quack medicine sleep in the same bed. And from that they give birth to baby quacks like the blood ban.

  Long version is on this yuku thread which might clear up some of that confusion...or it might make you scratch your head some more...

  http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/25042#.VvBHjeIrLre

  baker:
  In the Book "30 years a Watchtower Slave", William Schneil wrote that at one time the GB was considering to drop the Blood issue based upon Matt 15:17 alone, but that book was written over 30 years ago, and as yet no evidence of this stance has ever been noticed.

  They figured out how to make money from it instead.
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  Article: "JWs door to door pamphlets are actually alright." Journalist's mistakes corrected in Comments by XJWs. Read his reaction.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.the-newshub.com/general/jehovahs-witness-door-to-door-pamphlets-are-actually-alright#comment-section.

  jehovah's witness door to door pamphlets are actually alright.

  and their religion isn't that bad either.

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  Anderson: He promised to write another article pointing out how the JWs misrepresent their religion in their literature.

  He has written that article.

  Jehovah's Witness Pamphlets are extremely misleading
  

  Amazing what a little bit of research can do.

  This guy's rating of the JWs has significantly dropped.

  Combined anecdotal and academic evidence therefore both points towards the conclusion that the JW's act essentially like a reclusive and secretive cult. I can't, in good conscience, really see the JW's as the "good Christians" anymore. The JW's are manipulative, coercive, and sly. They are not "good Christians".
  On a scale of Christians from 1 to 10 (with the Westboro Baptist Church ranking as a "1"), I rate the Jehovah's Witnesses as a "2".
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  A New Watchtower trade name: Hudson Valley

  by Gorbatchov in

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  2. friends

  watchtower and trading business is a never ending combination, now under the new name of hudson valley, selling their building machines online: .

  http://used-tools-equipment.com.

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  OrphanCrow

  Gor: Why do they own it, and don't lease it or hire a contractor?!?

  Who did they buy the equipment from? Who profited from the purchase?
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  Vidiot: @ OrphanCrow...
  Didn't you post something recently about the WT's stance against transfusions having significant origins in the personal beliefs of a JW higher-up in the 50s who'd had fascist sympathies*?
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  * Nazis, for example, were very wary about the idea of transfusions, for "racial purity" reasons.

  Eh...yes. That information might might on this forum. I have investigated the links between Germany and the blood ban quite extensively.

  I sort of avoid bringing it up much just because of "Goddard's Law" and I don't like the tin foil hat label that is the knee jerk response to any mention of Nazis or Hitler. However, I don't talk about Hitler...it was Heinrich Himmler whom the WT had an intimate relationship with.

  So...my research into those connections are NOT Goddards' Law. There is a very strong connection between the blood ban and what was happening in WW2 in Germany.

  As well, the WT's alliances with the anti-AMA crowd had a significant impact on the implementation of the blood ban. Today's "bloodless" surgery has its roots in the chiropathic and osteopathic professions.
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  Faye: For me it is an issue of life. The whole concept of the blood issue is because blood is symbolic of life, and life is sacred, right? If life is so sacred, use blood to sustain life. It is the life itself that is the most sacred thing, not the symbol of life, which is the blood.

  Exactly. Even the doctrine is backwards and upside down.

  I addressed this once with some JW women who invited me to the memorial. I asked them if they believed in Jesus and they replied "yes". And then I asked them if they believed he had given his blood so that all could live. And, of course they said "yes".

  My reply was "If Jesus gave his blood so everybody could have life, then why don't you give blood?"
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  Blood Transfusion and Eating

  by dugout in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

  this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

  my wife accepts this reasoning.

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  OrphanCrow

  I had a medical doctor explain to me the difference between taking blood into the body as a transfusion as opposed to eating blood.

  A friend of mine received blood transfusions for hemorrhaging esophageal varices. While he was recovering, several days later, he was behaving strangely (in the doctor's words - "loopy").

  The doctor explained his behavior to me:

  "When a person gets a blood transfusion, their body does not usually have a problem accepting the blood. However, when a person digests their own blood, and that is what happened to your friend - it does something funny to their brain and they behave as though they are drunk - "loopy". It takes a few days for the blood to be completely digested and after that, they will return to their normal behavior. We don't know why this happens but it does."

  After being told this, I got to thinking about the bible verses that dealt with god's prohibition on "drinking the blood of your enemies" and getting "drunk" on that blood.

  Eating blood does very different things to your body than what accepting a blood transfusion will.