Posts by OrphanCrow

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The Watchtower's Medical Bible - the HLC handbook

by rebel8 in

posting this pm at the request of orphan crow:.

from a medical virtual library in spain:

"fernando martinez guerrero, the liaison committee hospitals of jehovah's witnesses , has made the library a collection of abstracts of scientific articles related to blood conservation techniques and perioperative ( blood conservation techniques and perioperative planning ).

OrphanCrow

Thank you for posting this Rebel...I have missed you too, Millie!

I am just testing...maybe I can reply to posts even though my attempts to make new posts have failed.

Listener: There should be no reason why the current version is not on their website. This is a life and death issue and this information should not be restricted to a select few. Shame on them.

The Watchtower has been publishing volumes of literature that promote "alternatives to blood transfusions" for decades now. They have distributed these volumes to hospitals, doctors and universities since back in the 70s.

As far as a "current version" goes, it would not surprise me if the WT no longer produces this particular "bible" of medical advice.

They don't have to anymore since the HLC big shots formed alliances with doctors and others to form the Society for the Advancement of Blood Management. The SABM produces the 'guidelines for blood management'. And not just for the JWs...those guidelines affect the whole world's blood supply now.

*hoping this will post!

...ha! it worked...

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CRA screwup for WT Canada?

by berrygerry in

okay, they've posted their 2015 return - i am very confused.. http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/haip/srch/t3010form23-eng.action?b=119288918rr0001&fpe=2015-08-31&n=watch+tower+bible+and+tract+society+of+canada+%2f+la+tour+de+garde+soci%c3%a9t%c3%a9+de+bibles+et+de+tracts+du+canada&r=http%3a%2f%2fwww.cra-arc.gc.ca%3a80%2febci%2fhaip%2fsrch%2fbasicsearchresult-eng.action%3fk%3dwatch%2btower%26amp%3bs%3dregistered%26amp%3bp%3d1%26amp%3bb%3dtrue.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/311690001/canada-branch-finances-whats-going-on?.

OrphanCrow

Canada Revenue has posted the correct tax return for the Canadian Watchtower.

2015 Registered charity information return for Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Canada

Assets: $79,586,279

Liabilities: $56,591,003

Revenue: $83,321,797

Expenditures: $94,016,825

A Troubling Culture: JW Group Think vs. Individual Critical Thinking

by MicaSmith in

i had no idea that the resistance, governance, and duplicity i am experiencing as a jehovah witness is actually part of a bigger behavioral issue that permeates the entire jehovah witness culture.. i was troubled by the fact that many persons who have been crushed by the unfair practices of jw leadership described themselves as former members of the jw cult, and, or, apostates.

the latter bothered me to a greater degree because i felt the word apostate has been overused by jw's leadership and members.

anyone who disagrees with anything the governing body does or says is assigned the label an apostate.

OrphanCrow

Wow, Mica...I have to applaud you.

I have read your other posts, and for someone who has gone through the hell you have, and for being "out" (sort of...) for only a year, you really have your shit together.

Well done, my girl!!! Very very well done.

Could you share what you have done on your path to recovery? It seems so miraculous that it must be worth sharing!

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Blood Transfusion and Eating

by dugout in

i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

my wife accepts this reasoning.

OrphanCrow

Cold Steel: Oh, you're kidding. Just because we don't eat blood, the dog's not supposed to eat it, either?? What about your pet vampire bats? Can They eat it? And gardens? Those are some tough rules!
Talesin: I did not know that. : P

Yeah...you need to read your Watchtowers more often.

Watchtower '81 10/15 p. 31

"Consider, for instance, the use of blood as fertilizer. When an Israelite hunter poured an animal’s blood out on the ground it was not in order to fertilize the soil. He was pouring it on the earth out of respect for blood’s sacredness. So, would a Christian with a similar appreciation of the significance of blood deliberately collect it from slaughtered animals so that he could use it as fertilizer? Hardly, for such commercialization of blood would not be in accord with deep respect for the life-representing value of blood."

Now, that is nuts. "Loopy" thinking - they must have been drinking blood when they came up with that one.

*oh...and by the way, Cold Steel, blood transfusions are banned for pets too. If a dog is unlucky enough to belong to JWs, their fate is sealed. Jehovah wants them to die too if they need blood. reference: "Questions From the Readers," Watchtower, February 15 (1964), p. 127

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Funny things to not do at the Memorial

by rebel8 in

jw
friends

pull out a can of cheese whiz, top the bread with it, and take a nibble.. .

say really loud...."oh, wow!

jesus' body is really tasty this year!".

OrphanCrow

Eat two cans of beans for lunch. You should be ready to pass some smelly ones by the time the memorial service starts.

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Article: "JWs door to door pamphlets are actually alright." Journalist's mistakes corrected in Comments by XJWs. Read his reaction.

by AndersonsInfo in

jw
friends

https://www.the-newshub.com/general/jehovahs-witness-door-to-door-pamphlets-are-actually-alright#comment-section.

jehovah's witness door to door pamphlets are actually alright.

and their religion isn't that bad either.

OrphanCrow

Simon: Really? Someone knocks on your door once every year or so and that is the "bane of most people's existence"?

Well...in some people's lives, yes, it is the bane of their existence. That is why the JWs have ended up in court on many occasions for their incessant door knocking. If the JWs weren't the bane of these people's existence, I doubt that they would have bothered to take it to court.

The author probably shouldn't have inserted the word "most" into his sentence but regardless, that slip doesn't negate the rest of his article and the main thrust of it.

"Most" people expect others to respect their privacy and the JWs violate that.

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Blood Transfusion and Eating

by dugout in

i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

my wife accepts this reasoning.

OrphanCrow

talesin: OC, remember "It's a Shopsy!"?

No, I am not familiar with "It's a Shopsy!". Our approved company name to buy wieners from was "Fuhrman's". They were way more expensive than regular hot dog wieners and we didn't buy them often. You could tell if a JW family had money because they would have a case of Fuhrman wieners in their deep freeze!

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A New Watchtower trade name: Hudson Valley

by Gorbatchov in

jw
friends

watchtower and trading business is a never ending combination, now under the new name of hudson valley, selling their building machines online: .

http://used-tools-equipment.com.

OrphanCrow

stuck: How do you know that is a WT site?

From the website:

Hudson Valley Used Tools and Equipment is Kingdom Support Services, Inc

Kingdom Support Services is a Watchtower corporation.

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Blood Transfusion and Eating

by dugout in

i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

my wife accepts this reasoning.

OrphanCrow

cofty: In a modern abattoir the blood is collected and used for all manner of commercial uses. Therefore is would be unlawful to eat the meat you buy in a butcher's shop or supermarket.

When I was a kid, we were not allowed to eat processed meat. Bologna and hot dogs were seen as the devil's food. The only processed meat product that anybody in the congregation would buy came from a Jewish kosher meat processing company.

I have always had a suspicion that those earlier dietary rules were rooted in the financial alliances that the Bible Students had with the Jewish community - "tell your adherents not to eat blood and buy our food instead".

Where the WT really lost the plot, though, was when they banned the use of certain pet foods and garden fertilizers that were made with blood products. That was insanity at its finest.

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Blood Transfusion and Eating

by dugout in

i get highly irritated when this subject comes up.

this idiot gave a talk in my hall recently and said that transfusion of blood and eating blood was the same thing.

my wife accepts this reasoning.

OrphanCrow

steve2: Doubtfully Yours provides a very helpful glimpse into the cult mentality in which obedience to misapplied scripture is praised over life itself.
Not for the faint of heart indeed! As religious extremists of every color and shade have demonstrated across human history, having one's life extinguished in the name of submission to the Divine can be the highest honor!

The WT blood policy exploits the martyr complex.

"In psychology a person who has a martyr complex, sometimes associated with the term victim complex, desires the feeling of being a martyr for his/her own sake, seeking out suffering or persecution because it either feeds a psychological need, or a desire to avoid responsibility."

Embracing martyrdom is self serving/selfish. People who have no purpose are the ones who will embrace somebody else's purpose and call it admirable. False courage and irresponsibility dressed up as virtue.