ILoveTTAT: I uploaded the last convention video onto Youtube, got a "copyright claim" from Audiomachine, which I happily obliged to.Does that suggest that the WTS didn't purchase the rights to use the song?
OrphanCrow
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Major fail on last convention video
by ILoveTTATT2 inas noted on reddit,.
the last convention video,.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d43eygztxl4plagiarized the sound from this album:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2udtlqwtjd4 .
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Has Robert Ciranko replaced Don Adams as president of the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society of Pennsylvania ?
by EdenOne inrobert ciranko has been a "helper" of the governing body in the writing department.. don adams (born 1925, presumably 91 years old now) has been president of the wtbts since 2000. .
however, in recent official posts (april 2016), robert ciranko is identified as "president of the watch tower".
does anybody know what happened and if this is an official change?.
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OrphanCrow
A bio for Robert Ciranko and his wife, Ketra can be found in the write up for the 2010 Annual Meeting.
http://www.extj.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=9779d=1288002844
(document downloads automatically if you click the link)
Robert Ciranko & Ketra.
Bob is a third generation Witness, raised by Witness parents. All of his four grandparents were anointed. They were humble Hungarian immigrants who learned the truth in Ohio from Bible Students. They were totally loyal to Jehovah and his organization. In 1955 his father took the family to Europe on a tour of international conventions. What stood out in his eight-year-old mind was Nuremberg where an assembly was held on Hitler’s parade grounds. Hitler had vowed to annihilate Jehovah’s Witnesses but we were 100,000 in mass. The 1958 assembly in New York City had ¼ of a million in attendance. These large gatherings showed that the truth was much bigger than himself or his hometown congregation. In 1965 when he was at the end of his schooling, the Vietnam War was still going on and he faced the draft board. He could get an exemption if he was serious about service, otherwise he could get a three year prison sentence. He had to put on paper how he really felt, his Bible based beliefs, the reasons for being a conscientious objector, etc. He had been baptized when he was eleven, but the truth became his own when he filled out that form. Every year for six years the draft board checked up on him to see that he was still pioneering. He was invited to serve in the circuit work in 1975 as a young, single man. But he wanted to get married so he prayed long and hard about this and in 1978 he met and married Ketra. Jehovah helped him find a good mate. They have served 32 years together in circuit and district work and at Bethel. To stay in full time service they put off having children, which was a sacrifice. But they hope this desire will be filled in the New World.
Ketra: She grew up in a small congregation in central Illinois where it was common to only have eight at a meeting. She was the only Witness in school and would have to take her stand alone. She saw clearly the difference between true and false religion early and that the truth gave her a hope that others did not have. She was baptized when she was 13. She made the truth her own when she began pioneering at a larger congregation where it was apparent some things were just not right. Eventually apostasy came to light. Some did not like field service, and especially pioneers. After serious prayer she reaffirmed in her heart that this was Jehovah’s organization and the need to be loyal. She applied to be a special pioneer, which was possible at that time, and was assigned to another congregation in Minnesota. This congregation was a spiritual paradise, and her faith was strengthened. There was a fine body of elders and peace in the congregation, yet she was alone and also praying for a mate. Circuit and District work was challenging, but she found out what a blessed people we are to belong to a wonderful brotherhood. They have fond memories of living with friends in their homes. They would give them a key to their homes and they made friendships that could last forever. In 1994 they came to Bethel and since she is an only child, they faced the challenge of caring for her parents’ who had lingering illnesses. They used vacation time and leaves of absence to travel to Illinois to care for them. They didn’t have to give up their treasured Bethel service.
· What excites you about the direction the Governing Body is going?
Bob Ciranko: “They are feeding us the best spiritual food we have ever received. It is that Jehovah is in charge of the work and in complete control. The new Jeremiah book, page 119 says, “His will is going to take place in the way and at the pace he knows is best. This is guaranteed; we have no reason to doubt it.” As Zech. 8:23 describes, it is clear that God is using these men in a mighty way. If we hold on tightly to the skirt of a spiritual Jew they will lead us to the New World.” -
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Question about 1940s Watchtower history
by slimboyfat ini was studying this fascinating composite graph of jw growth.
lots of interesting things there.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/demographics_of_jehovah%27s_witnesses#/media/file%3ajwstats1931-2015.png.
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sfb: According to this graph the anointed figures increased from around 1944 to around 1948, despite the fact that the numbers were falling dramatically before and after this brief window of growth. Does anyone have any plausible explanation for this?
It could have been related to the "changing of the guard" or the amount (and type) of converts following the end of WW2.
Rutherford died in December 1942.
And then the war ended in 1945. Maybe the spike is related to the claim of the WT that there were many prisoners and German SS guards that converted because of the JWs' 'good witness' during the war. The elitism of being selected as a special group to 'reign with Christ' would likely be appealing to an SS officer - all they would have to do is exchange the "1000 year reign of the Third Reich" with the "1000 year reign of Christ".
Ha! How is that for Godwin's Law? Lol! only 2* posts in...
*edit - "3" posts
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Geoffrey jackson quote on fading/ leaving with no sanction
by Tornintwo incan anyone help me find geoffrey jacksons quote about people deciding to walk away from the religion and not facing sanctions, i need it to cope with some busybody elders.
please xxx.
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stuckinarut: The branch overseer Terry O'Brien also was questioned on this by the ARC.
Perhaps someone can post the section of video where he was questioned?Maybe this one?
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hidden image: JwFairyTales 5: teh end of this System of Things
by goingthruthemotions inso i sometimes go back and look at jw fairtales videos.
he such a good story teller and his video are heartfelt.. anyways i saw a hidden image at the 37:04 point.
does anyone know what book this is from?.
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OrphanCrow
The image at the 37:04 mark is from "My Book of Bible Stories" page 95
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CHILD BAPTISM
by megabyte_vijay init is strange to read the last week watchtower that encouraging child/teenagers' baptism.
even jesus was baptised as his 30. jws encouraging marriages at an older age.
but why they are encouraging children to get baptised.
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megabyte: it is strange to read the last week watchtower that encouraging Child/Teenagers' baptism
What is strange about the JWs practice of baptizing children is how the act of baptism blurs the lines between adult and child. The terrible consequences of turning children into baptized members is that it sets them up for making adult decisions...like giving their consent to sexual acts.
Child baptism turns children into miniature adults and it becomes an act that fosters the thinking that "if the child is old enough to be baptized, they are old enough to consent to sex".
I think that the GB encourage child baptism because they need to believe, and they need others to believe, that children engaging in adult acts is acceptable (...which includes having sex). They need to believe that children can consent to and enter into contractual arrangements that the children themselves will be held accountable for.
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Geoffrey jackson quote on fading/ leaving with no sanction
by Tornintwo incan anyone help me find geoffrey jacksons quote about people deciding to walk away from the religion and not facing sanctions, i need it to cope with some busybody elders.
please xxx.
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Gordie Howe and hockey
by berrygerry inwhile ali made an unparalleled mark on boxing, the same can be said for gordie howe and hockey.. for those who have played team sports, hockey is absolutely the best team sport that there is.. "mr hockey - gordie howe" provides a glimpse into his life (just started on cbc, simon).. this clip of the 1980 all-star game, in which he played at 52 years old, is a testament to this athlete, and this human.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od3fd6vx0uc.
(2016 is truly proving to be a loss in the sports and entertainment world)..
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TWO MEN who changed Watchtower History but YOU NEVER HEARD of them!
by TerryWalstrom intwo men who changed watchtower history but you never heard of them!
cults are famous for control--especially controlling information about people, places and events which are embarrassing to their self-myths.. especially is this true for two important figures in watchtower history.. .
the first man is william f. hudgings.
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OrphanCrow
William Hudgings was also an inventor.
He invented an "asshole flusher" and filed a patent for it in 1930.
https://www.google.com/patents/US1983293
Huh...there must have been a market for the device at Brooklyn Bethel.
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Supreme Court Of Russia bans Jehovah's Witnesses as an 'extremist organization'
by EdenOne inread the news here.
the jehovah's witnesses lost their appeal to the supreme court of russia.
bethel to be liquidated.. i bet the gb saw this coming ... here comes the persecution complex paranoia.
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sanchy: Crow, you missed the main point of my argument. The point I was trying to make is that individuals will suffer pain. Real flesh and blood people. Not just numbers in some organization. These ppl could be your brother, your sister, your cousin, individuals that very well might end up in jail for not wanting to violate their conscience, as have so many JW throughout their history, and continue to do so (see south korea)
Well, I guess I did miss your point. I was being concerned for the people who actually are related to me...the blood relatives that I do not want to see getting sucked into committing suicide for an American corporation masquerading as a religion.
You are so right. I missed your point. As you missed mine. You missed feeling for the real flesh and blood people who will be required to give up their flesh and blood for the profits of that American corporation that wants to get the Russian people to die for them too. You missed feeling for the thousands and thousands of people who have already felt the pain of giving up flesh and blood.
Your tactic of trying to make me feel guilty for the pain of some unknown people isn't going to work...I already feel for the ones I know. I already feel for the ones who have died for a bullshit blood doctrine.
