i have a favor to ask.
i need some information found in a watchtower that i can't seem to find in my library.
today, the watchtower teaches that the governing body is the faithful slave.
sparky: YOUR WORD IS TRUTH
Is the Pope Gods Intermediary?
"There is such a governing body today, even as Jesus foretold, a "faithful and discreet slave", whom he has set over all his belongings." pg.28 final paragraph
AWAKE February 8, 1965 page 27-28
Yes. I remember that teaching.
I was always under the impression that the GB were declared the faithful and discrete slave back in the 60s. Good find
i have a favor to ask.
i need some information found in a watchtower that i can't seem to find in my library.
today, the watchtower teaches that the governing body is the faithful slave.
VI: And Geoffrey Jackson told the ARC that it would be presumptuous of them to claim they're God's channel of communication.
I remember that exchange as Jackson saying "that it would be presumptuous of them to claim they're God's only channel of communication"
He didn't deny it..he denied being the sole channel - which is what they really claim
introvert: Also makes me ill in a fashion that's hard to describe, like when you meet with and have to interact with patients from the psych. ward.
Me too. I have the same reaction. It is because the words and method of writing that the WTS uses are a "word salad" - they don't really make logical sense and reading the WT words is like listening to a schizophrenic ramble on and try to make an argument. You get lost in the process. Your brain becomes numb
I avoided reading their literature for years. It screws with a person's head trying to follow the maze they weave
steve2: I'm behind the ball on this thread, so forgive me for asking: Why is mention made of someone in the writing dept composing this song when it appears inspired by what a householder observed? Or have I misunderstood something?
Yeah, I was confused at first too. But I think what was meant was that someone in the writing department had heard the song first...an awake person. And chose 'Kevin" based on this song
https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/regionals/north/2016/06/29/who-are-jehovah-witnesses-who-live-among/z39a6dvdcp5lvufo7y7ozo/story.html.
why isn't the boston globe doing a better job covering this group?.
after all, the movie spotlight won an oscar about this paper and their groundbreaking journalism into the catholic church covering child abuse.
Mad Irishman: The Catholic Church has had over 15,000 priests molest over 1 million kids, some in my family, and they hid and reassigned all of them over and over and over for 50 years and did nothing in almost every case.
That isn't exactly the same story as JW's.
No, it isn't exactly the same.
The Catholic Church has over 1.2 billion members worldwide. The JWs have (apparently) around 8 million. Big difference. The JWs make up less that one percent of that size.
And here is another thing that is different - not all of the JW pedophiles were/are "priests" or persons in a clerical position. Many of the cases in the JWs involve incest. In the case of the Catholic Church cover-up, I have yet to hear of incest being part of the scenario. Incest is what separates the Catholic Church scandal from the JW child sex abuse scandal
VillageIdiot: but the rhyming line "Kevin get to heaven" is not JWish correct.
Ah...but maybe Kevin would grow up and drink the wine...
*to add - the line is said as tho it is the singer saying it. It is a normal reaction of an ordinary person to seeing a little boy selling religion at their door - they don't know that Kevin doesn't have "heavenly hope"
Doc: How many first names are there for males? And the WTS Writing Dept or Teaching Committee picks "Kevin"? What are the odds?
Yep, sure sounds like someone is awake on the writing staff.
Doc
And then there is this...someone on the writing staff may have been from Germany
The Strange German Disease Called "Kevinism": Can a Lame Name Mess Up Your Life?
according to my elder in law, by next year the number of dc/rc's will increase by 143. the size of conventions will get smaller.
the elder in law says the goal is to make them all have around 2,000 or so at each.
they are going to make more manuals detailing each job and it's responsibilities.
Busting up large groups of JWs makes it easier to handle them - easier to spot apostates etc.
This is not a new technique - it is what Rutherford did back in the 30s when he was restructuring the JWs. He busted down the large congregations and made them into little ones. He dissipated the power outside of himself - smaller groups had less power within each one.
So much of what is going on with the JWs today is simply a re-make of the early Rutherford years. He, too, was dealing with a failing membership and the re-structuring and re-branding that he did leading up to the founding of the JW religion was largely successful. Maybe the WTS is trying to take a leaf out of Rutherford's playbook
Aw...this is sweet. :)
I sent an email to Spirit of the West thanking John for writing this song and about Kevin being the exJW hero and why we relate to this song.
I received a message back from Hugh McMillan from Spirit of the West and I will share it with all of you:
Thanks very much for this message. The song was written by both John Mann and Geoffrey Kelly, and the band arranged and contributed to the music; we are glad to know it is resonating with others, particularly those in situations for whom it was written/inspired by. You may also find resonance in “The Rites of Man”, which draws upon similar subject matter, although it’s more a lament inspired by a sad conflict between survival and faith.
In wellness and healing,
hm
i have a question for all the creative writers out there.
if i'm writing a book, can i quote anyone that i want, as long as i give them credit?
for instance, i want to quote mark twain, imitating rocky, quoting donald trump.
Yes, you can quote anybody you want. But you have to credit them.
Provide a reference and source and you are good to go :)
sfb: That's great. Who did it?
Spirit of the West.
A Canadian folk rock band from Vancouver. Their final show was in April 2016. The band is disbanding because John Mann has Alzheimers
