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  2.16.2017 NJ Star-Ledger Ad: "Were you sexually abused by the Jehovahs Witnesses?"

  by breakfast of champions in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  my wife found this 1/4 page ad on page 2 of yesterday's nj star-ledger, probably the biggest newspaper in nj.

  pretty telling.. .

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  OrphanCrow

  MyName: I'm just being realistic.

  No you're not.

  You are taking the position that appears to be realistic to you. That is all. Stating your view of reality does not equal "realistic".

  Newspapers are an excellent venue for this type of ad. It will reach people who are of an older generation - ie...those historic abuse cases that have been so far invisible

  And...using the phrase "the appearance of "a few lawyer ads"" - reveals that you are discounting the importance of these ads being mounted by several law firms. These "few lawyer ads" are evidence that the media to this point has given attention to these child abuse cases and secondly...that lawyers are of the opinion that they have the legal teeth to pursue the WTS

  Realistic? Well...according to how you view it

  *to add - these ads are also targeting a group of people who have been taught to mistrust online versions of news. They have been told that Satan manipulates the internet (unless it comes from jw..org) They will instinctively trust hard copy newspapers more readily. Placing the ads in newspapers is a genius marketing move
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  OrphanCrow

  The OP made this statement:

  But it seems like over half of the cases that the ARC is looking at happened within the family of the perpetrator. Certainly, many would contest that they could have done more after the fact to support the victim and ensure that the offender went to jail, but sadly probably very little could have been done to prevent that terrible act.

  I disagree with that persons' position/opinion/perspective.

  The OP presents that apparent distribution of sexual crimes being within families as an apology or rational for the appearance of this sexual crime within the JW religion.

  And yes, it is an apologetic stance. Any sentence that starts with "but" is going to present an apparent reason for an anomaly occurring.

  I have been aware that the pattern of sex abuse within the JWs occurs systemically - it happens at all levels, within and outside of that sanctified family circle. The WT has taken, for many decades, the legal position that the family unit is sacred. They have fought many legal battles on that principle and have taken that stand in their battle to have it ethical for parents to refuse life saving medical treatments for their children.

  The factors that foster a climate of familial abuse are varied and the WTS is responsible for contributing to the problem. The numbers that we have available that point to this phenomena, that over half of the cases are familial, reveal that the WTS is aware of this too. Of course they are.

  And yet what did they do right after the ARC started? They released a video for 'educational' purposes that was shown to parents and children that depicted the abuser as a stranger, a monster. And, the children were instructed to "tell their parents first". Really? The WTS, through the use of this video, reveals that they are reinforcing familial abuse, not preventing it.

  The WTS wants to keep the family unit as a closed, sealed unit, where the parents (AKA parents who follow the WTS orders/rules) have full control and power over minor children. It is that ideology and practice that fosters and maintains familial sexual abuse.
  
  
  
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  TV commercial seen in the United States, from a Law firm "Asking if you were ever sexually abused by JEHOVAHS WITNESSES, please call".

  by Dunedain in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  ok, so i don't know if this is "old news", and if this has been seen, and or mentioned already.

  if it was, i do apologize, but i feel i have to mention what has been seen on tv, within the past 24 hours.. first off, i would like to say that i did not personally see this commercial.

  however, it was seen by someone that i can verify 100% is telling the truth, as it was my own father who saw it.

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  Video Showing Where in the World Jehovah's Witnesses Have been Active, 1926-2016

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after many, many days of learning how to write macros in excel and cleaning up a lot of data, i finally have the desired result: a timeline of where jehovah's witnesses have been active since 1926.there are some notes:1) "korea" was assumed to be both north and south korea up until 1950.

  (i chose 1950 because that is the same year russia and other communist countries went "banned").2) morocco and western sahara are considered as one.3) in the years previous to 1947, i had to read the yearbook reports and make an educated guess as to whether i should include in the report or not.

  my requirements were: not banned, report was for an entire year if there was more than one witness in the land, reports were official and not second hand.

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  Essentially it includes places where there was a full report for the year and places where the witnesses had legal presence

  Yes. That is a critical distinction.

  This video is valuable in that it highlights how the WTS has had (or not) political positioning across the world. As much as the org presents itself as a "religion", its political presence has significance
  
  
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  Video Showing Where in the World Jehovah's Witnesses Have been Active, 1926-2016

  by ILoveTTATT2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after many, many days of learning how to write macros in excel and cleaning up a lot of data, i finally have the desired result: a timeline of where jehovah's witnesses have been active since 1926.there are some notes:1) "korea" was assumed to be both north and south korea up until 1950.

  (i chose 1950 because that is the same year russia and other communist countries went "banned").2) morocco and western sahara are considered as one.3) in the years previous to 1947, i had to read the yearbook reports and make an educated guess as to whether i should include in the report or not.

  my requirements were: not banned, report was for an entire year if there was more than one witness in the land, reports were official and not second hand.

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  That is an interesting video, ILoveTTATT.

  I noticed that Canada disappeared from the active status during the war years when the JWs were under ban. That big red country became invisible for a few years. The same thing happens with several other countries - there are African countries that appear and then disappear.

  It appears like this map reflects where the JWs were legally able to have a presence, rather than where they were actually "active". This map reflects the political presence of JWs around the world, not necessarily their active status per se.
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  OrphanCrow

  "...but it can be said that ..."

  oh ffs
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  ARC Analysis Summary of Case Files

  by Richard Oliver in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.

  i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.

  it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.

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  OrphanCrow

  RO: ...how the ARC staff broke down those numbers into different categories. Obviously, the ARC staff felt that the person's status was important in determining culpability of the organization in these terrible acts

  Don't be stupid.

  The ARC staff is presenting us with how the WTS broke down those numbers. The ARC staff are only working with what was given to them!!!

  Ask yourself why the WTS broke the numbers down that way and kept them on record

  
  
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  Beardless Jesus. Why?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  beardless jesus in watchtower publications between 1930s and 1960s.

  a simple detail 'deliberately' left out.

  the question is why?.

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  OrphanCrow

  You are right, David_Jay, the Cold War culture in America produced images of smooth, clean American men.

  The masculine ideal in advertising images of that era was slick and smooth:

  

  
  
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  Beardless Jesus. Why?

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  beardless jesus in watchtower publications between 1930s and 1960s.

  a simple detail 'deliberately' left out.

  the question is why?.

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  OrphanCrow

  The 1958 Jesus in the Paradise book was Asian - he probably was Chinese. No chest hair on them...
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  Trey Bundy 13-minute interview at C.I.R. headquarters re: allegations of sex abuse among JWs. You will find this video quite "revealing"

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  https://www.facebook.com/thisisreveal/videos/1265278083563107/?utm_source=reveal+newsletters&utm_campaign=41ea55c5ef-the_weekly_reveal_01_10_17&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_c38de7c444-41ea55c5ef-229964425.

  january 5, 2017. reporter trey bundy discusses his reporting on allegations of sex abuse among jehovah’s witnesses.

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  OrphanCrow

  Vidiot:
  

  cha ching - "...the WT has not paid one cent of the $4,000 a day yet."
  

  
  Not even the slightest bit surprised at this point.
  
  Hell, at the rate the tab's adding up, the amount's gonna overshoot the size of regular guilty-penalties or settlements before too long.
  

  
  

  I am not at all surprised either.

  The $4000 a day fine is so tiny as to be almost non-existent when taken in perspective. No wonder the WTS isn't paying - it is a really, really cheap way to avoid complying with the court order

  $4000 a day for one year comes to $1,460,000

  The 2017 Yearbook reported the average publisher number for 2016 as 8,132,358.

  If each publisher gave the WTS $0.25 during the year - just once - if each publisher donated just a quarter- that would come to $2,033,089. More than enough to cover the fine for a full year on a single donation of only 25 cents with lots left over

  No wonder the WTS wants the kids' ice cream money. It would only take all the little JW kids doing that once during the year to more than cover the fine that the WTS isn't paying

  The fine is a joke. It is peanuts