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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

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  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  BluesBrothers: The Soviets banned them and they grew faster underground. I grew up on stories of the brave JW's behind the Iron Curtain and those who smuggled in the literature. They were an inspiration to us all , and proof ( to us) that Satan could not thwart Jehovah's Organisation.

  Well...that is what you were told. I don't think they grew faster - that sounds like a WT myth. I am not convinced.

  There are several accounts of those banned, isolated little bands of JWs who emerged from hiding with copies of Rutherford literature clutched tightly in their hands. Which they rigorously defended, never re-joining the new and improved WTS. They view the WTS as "apostate" because the doctrine changed so much during their dark ages.

  There is one of those groups that uploaded material to archive.org a few years ago. They call themselves the "Theocracy Publishers":

  https://archive.org/search.php?query=theocracy%20publishers

  I am wondering if those isolated little groups of JWs, are the ones that are a point of contention mentioned in the court when "unregistered" congregations are being discussed as to whether the ban should include them or not (sorry...can't find that part right now). It seems like there is some confusion as to if the Admin Center oversees all of them (?).
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  Apologists saying that the JWs shouldn't be banned, what the hell!??

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it's been brought to my attention that there are xjw that say they support the witnesses and don't think russia should ban them.

  i would just like to remind all of you that jws are guilty of murder, causing higher rates of suicide, covering up child molestation, and keeping members in prisoned because if they leave they loose family, financial support, possible employment etc.. sure their not strapping bombs to their chests but they easily get members to kill themselves with their blood policies.

  they are an extremist group!

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  OrphanCrow

  "freedom of religion is a fundamental human right"

  So is "freedom from religion".

  The freedom to believe is fundamental. The freedom to practice that belief bumps up against the freedoms of others, who have the fundamental right to be free from religious practice.

  
  

  
  
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  JWs - Organ, Tissue and Eye Donation

  by darkspilver in

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  fyi.

  saturday 15 april 2017, 4pm to 6pm.

  organ, tissue and eye donation.

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  OrphanCrow

  Read my lips.

  Early detection of a possible anemic condition.

  First step

  Early detection
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  JWs - Organ, Tissue and Eye Donation

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fyi.

  saturday 15 april 2017, 4pm to 6pm.

  organ, tissue and eye donation.

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  OrphanCrow

  Richard, a hemoglobin check makes perfect sense. The JW population belong to a rare blood group that cannot have the part of blood that corrects for anemia. A belief, a phbia, a conviction...whatever, they can't have that part of blood. Early detection of an anemic condition, with a simple blood test for iron levels, is practical.

  Iron supplements and diet can sometimes correct hemoglobin deficiencies in a person's blood, whether they appear healthy or not
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  JWs - Organ, Tissue and Eye Donation

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
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  fyi.

  saturday 15 april 2017, 4pm to 6pm.

  organ, tissue and eye donation.

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  OrphanCrow

  Richard, you made a really big leap to go from "hemoglobin check" to Arterial Blood Gas test.

  An Arterial Blood Gas test has nothing to do with a hemoglobin check.
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  RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

  by jwleaks in

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  2. friends

  the trial has begun.

  the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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  steel: It sure must be odd to see seven American men come over to Russia and claim to be gods spokesperson on Earth. I think that alone might just piss off the Russians officials.
  Could you imagine seven Russians coming to the states claiming such total nonsense. Why can only Americans make such shit up.

  It isn't just odd. It is ridiculous. To think that the 7 lucky dwarfs of the WT Kingdom, can have free and easy access to a country whose religious history is centuries long, is myopic and emerges from a pretty new and shiny capitalistic "democracy". Backed by the United Nations.

  Christianity was established in 988 in Russia (Orthodox - because Vladimir fell in love with the beauty of the Greeks) and was eventually spread throughout rural areas by illiterate monks who had at best, memorized a fragment or two of text. Some of those strange little pockets of Christianity survived the Muslim rule in the 13th-15th century. And became the backdrop for apocalyptic cults in the Russian territories.

  Strange little bit of trivia - on the eve of the Tsar's abdication in 1917, an apocalyptic cult committed suicide on the outskirts of Moscow. Just over 60 members committed suicide. They were convinced the world was ending.

  And then the religious freeze. Throughout the Soviet era. Godless times.

  The WTS is a recent emergence on a scene that has such a long and varied religious history. And a long memory. Culture imprints deep memories when it is a old and significant as it has been in Russia.
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  RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the trial has begun.

  the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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  No problem, Richard. I appreciated your feedback (surprise!). I hate getting bogged down in details at times.

  Wonder: Where did Sanderson learn Russian...?

  Likely when he was in the Philippines. Strong Russian presence there.

  Lol! I doubt it was when he was treading Canadian prairie streets! The Russian community isn't that large here...but I could be wrong
  
  
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  RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the trial has begun.

  the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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  OrphanCrow

  From the horse's mouth:

  "On Wednesday morning, September 5, 2012, it was announced to the United States and Canada Bethel families that a new member had been added to the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses. Effective September 1, 2012, Mark Sanderson began to serve in that capacity.

  Brother Sanderson was raised in San Diego, California, U.S.A., by his Christian parents and was baptized on February 9, 1975. He began to serve as a pioneer in Saskatchewan, Canada, on September 1, 1983. In December 1990, he graduated from the seventh class of the Ministerial Training School (now called the Bible School for Single Brothers) in the United States. Brother Sanderson was appointed to serve as a special pioneer on the island of Newfoundland, Canada, in April 1991. After serving as a substitute circuit overseer, he was invited to become a member of the Canada Bethel family in February 1997. In November 2000, he was transferred to the United States branch, where he worked in Hospital Information Services and later in the Service Department.

  In September 2008, Brother Sanderson attended the School for Branch Committee Members and thereafter was appointed as a member of the Philippines Branch Committee. In September 2010, he was invited to return to the United States, where he served as a helper to the Service Committee of the Governing Body."
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  RUSSIA: (5 April 2017) Jehovah's Witnesses hearing under way

  by jwleaks in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the trial has begun.

  the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).

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  Richard, I appreciate those details. What you say is important. It helps to define, and recognize, the place that the Hospital Information network holds in each branch office, including Russia. And it is relevant to the HLC being recognized as only one small part of that network.

  Yes...I am afraid that I bandy terms around a bit - for the sake of my audience and also for the sake of Sanderson's biographical history.

  HLC is a term that JWs, and exJWs, are most familiar with - they know that HLC designates the body of men who look after their medical concerns. That is why I use it interchangeably at times. And because I also know that a JW does not just walk into the top position at the branch offices, as coordinator (or whatever WT term you would like to use) of the Hospital Information Services, in a branch office, without having served as a HLC member back somewhere on his first rung of the ladder to fame.
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  JWs - Organ, Tissue and Eye Donation

  by darkspilver in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  fyi.

  saturday 15 april 2017, 4pm to 6pm.

  organ, tissue and eye donation.

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  OrphanCrow

  Interesting. Thank you for posting this, dsp.

  I see that Yvette Bunch, Bloodless Med/Patient Blood Management Program Coordinator at Spartanburg Regional Healthcare System, who is a Jehovah's Witness herself, is still actively involved in the bloodless world:

  https://www.linkedin.com/in/yvette-bunch-1b202712/