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  Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.

  my favorite?

  bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.

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  LongHairGal: ORPHAN CROW:
  I don't know how you can sit idly by and hear that your 80 year old many-years-out mom is being regularly visited by the CO and an elder.....

  That is because you don't know my mother. Or the situation. My mother is more than capable of handling those guys and I wouldn't doubt it if she is setting the CO up. She will bide her time and when he least suspects, she will attack. That is her modus operandi. I know that.

  So I armed her. I gave her lots of stuff to put in her arsenal. She is up on the ARC and all sorts of other things. The child abuse stuff really makes her angry and she remembers what the local elders did to my sister when she was raped.

  My mother has a bone (or two or three) to pick with the WTS that goes back years and years and I am going to let her do it. I certainly will not be the one standing in her way.

  This isn't funny

  Actually, it is. What will be even funnier is when the CO finds out that my mother isn't a vulnerable old lady - she is vicious. She has only been playing with him and the elders up to this point

  ...and I'd do something about this.

  Nah...I just hope I get to hear the story when she finally lets loose on them. I might not - I do not have any contact with my mother except through a sibling. She is so hard to handle that I no longer visit her or even speak to her.

  Thanks for the concern, LongHairGal, I do appreciate it. But if anyone needs to be warned or be concerned...it should be the CO and his elder buddies
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  book advice about the 'jw experience'

  by cobweb in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm looking for a book recommendation about the jw experience for the audience of a non-jw friend.. here is a scenario: you have recently left the jw religion and have made a friend who has little knowledge about your old religion.

  you would like them to understand more about you but at this point you feel awkward about explaining your religious background and don't feel confident that you can make them 'get it'.

  you decide you would like to give them a book that will do the grunt work of explaining it all; one that will give them a deeper insight into your former world than you feel able to provide, which will additionally explain why it is that you are now in the position you are, friendless, unsure of many things and adrift at an age where most people have got their life sorted.. if someone were in this situation and needed such a book, what you recommend?.

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  WakeMe: I'm Perfect, You're Doomed by Kyria Abrahams...

  I have never read her book either but I am a big fan of her youtube videos. This is Kyria discussing her book:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL8xVBWJLbw
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  Favorite/least favorite CO's and DO's

  by HereIgo in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i posted this thread sometime last year but thought i would revive it due to the new ones on the board, and to change things up a bit.

  my favorite?

  bro murikami, from hawaii, very humble, kind bro.

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  OrphanCrow

  Doc: However, in the last decade or even two decades, I'd say they have all been Company Men committed to watch over WT$ CA$H as the Prime Directive.

  Ah. So that explains why my elderly mother (who owns a house, etc) has been getting visits from the CO whenever he is in that territory. She told me that the local elder and the CO have been to see her several times over the years.

  It made me laugh. My mother was disfellowshipped way back in 69/70 and has held a heart of bitterness towards the org ever since. When it happened, she was shunned badly. It was traumatic and left lasting scars.

  And now. Now. when she is in her 80s, the CO big shot, along with one of the elders, come to visit her for regular "shepherding calls". I asked her why she even would let them in but she is cagy and just said that she wants to know what they will say. I guess the CO's standard thing is to ask her if she will return, blah, blah, blah....bible verse, etc. Haha! My mother and I both know what they are after. Her estate.

  They don't stand a chance and I think my mom is getting some sort of pleasure in making them squirm and come begging with a bible in hand.

  He is going to have a hard time on his next visit. She lost almost all of her hearing recently. And she is 80% blind. But, she won't give up a nickel. That I know. Not a nickel. And, she is armed with all the ARC stuff about child abuse, etc. He might have quite the visit. She is getting really cranky. The older she gets, the worse she gets.

  I don't know the CO's name. But he is doing his job. Bag man for the org.
  
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  That is somewhat helpful, Dsp. But, the link you provided is a link to stories about Norway's tax return. In spite of the government grants that the org receives being revealed, it still doesn't list the big contributors - the ones who could and do influence org activities. And the information that the Norwegian branch sent Germany over 300 million during those years still doesn't reveal where that money actually was spent. Putting $$$ in another country's bank does not quailify for knowing how the money was used.

  It appears like the link gives a reader a summary of that information but it does not give details.

  The tax return that has never been revealed, and likely never will be, is the BIG one - the American one.
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  Nursing exam question on JW blood beliefs

  by adjusted knowledge in

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  i had a similar question on my nclex exam for my nursing license.

  in the rapid changing beliefs of jws what is the correct answer?.

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  SAHS: .... if the medical profession ends up having to kowtow to the parochial mandates of extreme fundamentalist cults such as the Watch Tower, then all the efficacy of the accumulated scientific knowledge goes right out the window.
  But in our modern enlightened and civilized society, such purely superstitious behaviour – as apparently interpreted by certain self-serving pseudo-religious outfits – really has no place, and should be discarded along with all other such relics of pre-homo-sapient society.

  Yet, in the face of all that, the world now has to deal with the establishment of Blood Management (or PBM, depending on context). A medical discipline (endorsed by WHO as the "golden standard of care") that unabashedly claims "Holy Scripture" as the ethical basis for their approach:

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6214938441809920/basics-blood-management-dr-petra-seeber-dr-aryeh-shander-inaccuracies-myth
  
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  Would You Outlaw Jehovah's Witnesses If You Had Your Way?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i still believe in freedom of religion even if i disagree with the beliefsof the religion.

  what about you?.

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  I would like to see all aspects of the organization's tax returns made transparent and readily available to anyone. Completely transparent down to the last penny. So that regular tax payers know exactly what it is they are funding by giving the organization tax breaks. Books wide open.

  Including a donor list of all donations over a certain amount. So that the members themselves, and those of the public, can be aware of who has the most influence over the organization and also be aware of exactly where their donations go. And exactly what the tax breaks cover.

  Transparency. No more secrets.
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  Just had to share.

  by Coded Logic in

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  2. entertainment

  anybody into art out there?

  i was just so blown away by this piece i had to share.. .

  at first i was just like "oh, that's a clever idea".

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  OrphanCrow

  Coded Logic, that is an intriguing painting. thanks for sharing it. I love looking at art.

  It reminds me of Akira Komoto's work.

  Akira is a Japanese landscape photographer who paints objects and places them into the land as interventions before he photographs it. This is one of his photographs, that the painting you posted reminded me of:

  
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  Who is benefiting from Watchtower Corporation financially

  by John Davis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  who do you believe is financially benefiting from watchtower business dealings.

  i know about the gold apple watch, but that is only a small percentage of the billions that they have.

  so who do you think is keeping all of this money.

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  John Davis: Who do you believe is financially benefiting from Watchtower business dealings.

  I think that the WTS operates on an "outsourcing" model. Directed by the the donors who "insource" donations

  Who benefits?

  Well, back in the day, the paper manufacturing industry did. Look for JWs who are attached to that industry and you will find $$$ going into their pockets.

  The bloodless industry benefits from the ever changing blood doctrine. Look for the many, many JWs attached to that industry.

  You might find this interesting (a discussion about the Henwood paper scandal later in the thread):

  http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com/topic/25959/What-do-you-think-the-GB-are-up-to?page=1#.WVE6OuvyvIU
  
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  Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

  i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

  im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

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  Incognito: but they place credits in their videos?

  Generally, credits are given for a specific reason. Receiving support in the way of grant money usually has a caveat that requires credit being given on the final production. Just getting city approval for filming location usually does not have that caveat attached to it. But receiving financial support almost always does (*edit to add - maybe the city just waived the usual fees required to offset the location shoots).
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  Wow i do not reconize this religion anymore...

  by _Morpheus in

  1. jw
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  had the misfortune of stopping by the "regional" convention yesterday.

  i promised my daughter i would come to sunday afternoon so she wouldnt have to ride home with her mother.... holy crap it was weird!

  im sure all of this has been covered on the forum but to actually see it.... just wow.

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  A lot of films have location credits at the end

  Yeah. No big news there

  The credits are one of the most important features when watching productions. They reveal the source and the bias along with all sorts of other interesting information at times. Just watching a film without paying attention to its production process is a bit superficial, I think. It's only value is entertainment if the viewer doesn't absorb more than just the eye candy.